Who makes the strongest Steering set-up out there? Tie-rod, Drag link, Tie-rod ends, the whole bit. Money is no object :) Just wanted to know what's the best, strongest stuff. Thanks...

Probably the Currie steering system for a stock up grade. There are a few others that need serious mods to work, high steer type.

B&T TJ

Have a look at this steering... it's beefy as heck!

http://www.offroadonly.com/products/new/u-turn/


Best,
Flywaterguide

Have a look at this steering... it's beefy as heck!

http://www.offroadonly.com/products/new/u-turn/


Best,
Flywaterguide
That's not worth $650

What do you think Al, what's good?

It's hard to beat Currie. I'm running a stock drag link with Big Daddy tie rod.

That's not worth $650

From talking to a bunch of different sources, the consensus is that the currie system isn't much better than stock.

The guys at RE and other places where really high on the U-turn steering, which is why I went with it. With this steering, I was able to move my front axle a bit forward, which was something I needed to do to clear up my death wobble problems.

When I purchased this steering I also purchased a number of other items and was able to buy it for much less than the $650 retail price. I paid a bit more for this steering than the Currie, but not a heck of a lot.

I'd suggest calling around and seeing what prices you can find. It's real new, so some places are willing to make you a deal!

Best,

FG

currie is one of their biggest competitors.. of course they will try to deter you from it :wave:

I don't know who your sources are but they are full of it. They must be competitors. Of course RE is against Currie because RE doesn't have anything to compare with Currie.

The currie stuff is pretty hard to beat. I'm running the steering system, have bashed it on rocks no problem, the tie rod is soild bar not a tube the whole damm thing is strong, far stronger then the stock one as not mentioned above. First off there's no hole in the middle of the draglink for the stabilizer where many bend and the ends are huge. Replacement parts is the catch, these are specially made for Currie...
As my RE stuff wears out I'll replace it with Currie (need a source, ft. traclbar first) it just makes sense, imo.

B&T TJ

I really liked the Currie and wanted to get it. Then I saw this steering, compared them both, and chose the U-Turn. Only time and wear and tear will show if it's better, worse, or just the same as the Currie.

Best!

Flywaterguide

Your set up is awesome. I'd love to do it but not at that price.

Well I don't know if it's awesome or not.. I've only wheeled it once and driven about.. 1000 miles with it. It feels awesome, but it'll take a few "rocky encounters" before we know how good it is or isn't.

Don't worry, I'm not afraid to post that it rules! ... or that it sucks!

i have heard good things about that set up.
i wound up building my own steering. i was looking into the orw stuff, but i wanted to get the steering out of the rocks just as much as i wanted to beef it up.
there is a thread on it in the swb section someplace.
i have been very happy with it. it is made with 1-1/4" DOM tubing, and 1 ton tie rod ends.
beefy stuff. also, it is moved to the top of the knuckle.
i'm sure something very similar could be done with your tj's as my yj ;) :wave:

... the consensus is that the currie system isn't much better than stock.


sorry, I've been gone awhile, but I had to respond... you're damn lucky I don't ban you for that blatantly unfounded and absolutely wrong statement.

not only that... you better think twice about accepting a spot from me in Moab.

that is all.

Brian. :yay:

sorry, I've been gone awhile, but I had to respond... you're damn lucky I don't ban you for that blatantly unfounded and absolutely wrong statement.

not only that... you better think twice about accepting a spot from me in Moab.

that is all.

Brian. :yay:
i think brian forgot to add a ":P"

I have a combo, the currie drag link and the poison spyder tie rod. All because my stock steering got bent like a coat hangar. If you compare the currie to the stock you can easily see how much stronger they are. It's like comparing a stick to a log.

I have the currie steering set-up, never had any trouble with it...the info is for the guy who cam with me on the rubicon this year, John. He totalled the front end of his jeep and is looking for the best stuff out there to put it back together with.

the info is for the guy who cam with me on the rubicon this year, John. He totalled the front end of his jeep and is looking for the best stuff out there to put it back together with.

If he decides to go with Currie and you find a good source let me know, I could use a few things too. It's hard to find Currie stuff discounted, it's that good.

Regards, B&T TJ

sorry, I've been gone awhile, but I had to respond... you're damn lucky I don't ban you for that blatantly unfounded and absolutely wrong statement.

not only that... you better think twice about accepting a spot from me in Moab.

that is all.

Brian. :yay:

Rubicon Express
Full Traction
PORC
Central 4WD (in Sac.)
2 Local 4wd shops
and on and on.....

all said that they "liked" (read - in their opinion) the U-turn steering better than the Currie system.

So...you can take what they say, as I did, with a grain of salt and make your own judgement.

For me.. I had to cancel my Currie Steering System order, to get the U-Turn. we'll see how it all turns out.

Best,

FG

PS... remember I'm a janitor... I try not to make "unfounded" statements!

I have a combo, the currie drag link and the poison spyder tie rod. All because my stock steering got bent like a coat hangar. If you compare the currie to the stock you can easily see how much stronger they are. It's like comparing a stick to a log.

That's one of the setup ups I was thinking serously about.. you know I like PSC stuff. Ended up with the U-turn

From talking to a bunch of different sources, the consensus is that the currie system isn't much better than stock.



I'd like to know what comprised your consensus? Anyone who makes that statement is either a used car salesman or a moron with no experience.

There may be better systems depending on the criteria you use to define better.

But, to claim that solid, forged, heat treated chromemolley significantly larger in diameter and far stronger, as well as being resilient as "not much better than stock" is not only ludicrous, but false.

I dare any manufacturer to supply a stronger, easier to install, no hassle system for the TJ for less money.

Rubicon Express
Full Traction
PORC
Central 4WD (in Sac.)
2 Local 4wd shops
and on and on.....


I've dealt with folks from RE, I know someone frome FT, I've bought from C4WD and I can name 2 owners of 4wd shops that I think are morons.

I'm not impressed.

I've dealt with folks from RE, I know someone frome FT, I've bought from C4WD and I can name 2 owners of 4wd shops that I think are morons.

I'm not impressed.

what 2 owners? :eek:

Which is why... when it came down to it... I made the best decision I could based on whatever information I could obtain.

As I've said... .five times before... only time will tell if it as a good or bad choice. The discussion regarding the U-Turn steering should be continued... hummm... maybe late summer.... when more "data" has been gathered.

Best,

FG

Is it me? Does this seem to be going a little off topic.

FG, comming south for the New Years run? I'd like to see your set up.

There, off topic.

Cheers and Happy New year! B&T TJ

i think brian forgot to add a ":P"
i'm not sure he did....
i think he's pissed off about the whole thing. :yay:

No, I can't make it down... I had some family stuff come up that's going to take up most of my holiday weekend. :(


that... and I'm afraid that my steering won't hold up on the long trip down.....KIDDING!!!!

Have fun and I'll be down there before too long.

Best,

FG

yeah, I was in a wierd mood yesterday... musta been jetlag. :D

what 2 owners? :eek:

since my personal opinion of shop owners doesn't necessarily reflect their ability to service customers, I'll stop short of naming names.:D

Wfhere can you order this U-turn stuff from, and what are they asking for iT?...

Post #3 has an address. $650 + shipping.

$650 seems like an awful lot to spend on steering for an axle that possibly isn't up to the abuse... If you need 1.5" DOM steering, then I'm assuming that at least 35s, if not 37s are in the future? Why not just take the $ and apply towards a 44 with high steer knuckles and then you can run 1 ton hardware on that? Of course, I'm always looking at "opportunity costs" to justify my larger expenditures, and this one is a no brainer to me. If you want big steering, start with a big axle, or at least the one you will end up with! Just seems like a lot of money for a bracket and some DOM tubing... Or I suppose the setup Nailer has would be the same difference as a 44 when applied to a HP30. How much did you spend on that steering Erik, a couple hundred or so?

that is about right rick. well i bought a full stick of tubing to the tune of 200 bucks, and plan to sell the remaining section if someone else wants to make this steering.
then i bought the rod ends which are about 20 bucks each except for the fancy one which is about 30 bucks.
when i did this i built 2 sets so i would have a spare set, as i am quite sure no one would have any spares for me on the trail. ;) :wave:

just for the record... I take back the whole "Moab spotting" thing... that was kinda mean. :D

just for the record... I take back the whole "Moab spotting" thing... that was kinda mean. :D


thanks!

thanks!
told ya he forgot the ":P"
hehe

:D This will solve your steering woes..oh wait you can't buy this setup :D
http://www.fototime.com/C1580D7D5F5F23D/standard.jpg

$650 seems like an awful lot to spend on steering for an axle that possibly isn't up to the abuse... If you need 1.5" DOM steering, then I'm assuming that at least 35s, if not 37s are in the future? Why not just take the $ and apply towards a 44 with high steer knuckles and then you can run 1 ton hardware on that? Of course, I'm always looking at "opportunity costs" to justify my larger expenditures, and this one is a no brainer to me. If you want big steering, start with a big axle, or at least the one you will end up with! Just seems like a lot of money for a bracket and some DOM tubing... Or I suppose the setup Nailer has would be the same difference as a 44 when applied to a HP30. How much did you spend on that steering Erik, a couple hundred or so?

It's not so much that you need the Dom for the big tires, it's that you have a tendency to abuse the links with physical damage.

The stock TJ tie-rod is more than adequate and it's what, 3/4 .150 wall alloy tube? It will not bend under any amount of stress that the knuckles will withstand until you introduce a lateral impact of any kind. Then it folds like a soggy pancake.

The other issue is that Erik's option is not available to 98 percent of TJ owners as they lack the DIY fab skills to engineer around the passenger side spring and swaybar link mount. Trust me, the only way mine works is that I cheated and moved the spring buckets back and centered them over the axle tube. Most assuredly not for the faint hearted.