Hello guys.... I finaly found a group of trailers from Cali... I have been browsing the net for quite sometime now to find a group of Cali trailers... well for right now... I'm in the military and currently stationed in Japan but will be transfering to San Diego in a couple of months... I just bought a '03 Jeep Wrangler Sport Patriot blue w/ 30"s tire package that I'm going to pick-up as soon as I get there :p... anyway... I'm new to the 4 wheel world and would like to learn and get better at it... and I think that you guys are the right people that can show me that... sorry for the novel and I hope that I see some of you guys in a couple of months.

John

John -

Welcome to the site! I met alot of the people on the site earlier this year - and my Jeep went from stock with 31's to now having new bumpers, a lift, a locker and maybe 33's on the way! There's a number of trails that I did with 31's including Miller Jeep Trail. For each run we post what the requirements are for your Jeep, so pay attention to that and we'll answer any questions you have.

I'm sure JeepGal will be the first to tear off your endcaps!!
:P We look forward to building up your new Jeep!

Sarah

wow that's great to know that you guys look up on each other.... hey thanks for the heads up:)... I'll make sure that I read up before going to any run... thanks for the welcome:)

Hey John!! Welcome to MJR!! :D

Welcome Jon!

Military! Cool! Navy here!

You did find the right group of people! Lots of knowledge, and more than enough friendliness.

Again Welcome.

Thanks for all the welcome guys... I'm really looking forward to meet with you all... I have so much to learn and to eager to get out in the trail... 2 months more to go and I'll have a chance to meet some of you. Thanks again for the welcome.

John

welcome to the board! there is a lot of knowledge on here, and some damn nice folks too:) hope to see you out on the trail.

End Caps? Did someone say End Caps?

Ill be happy to help you with those!

Mikey the Fireman is in San Diego too! I removed his for him as well. Also Sarahs and Brians(goodtimes)...LOL

Look forward to meeting you! It wasnt that long ago that I was totally stock as well...boy have I come a long way in a short amount of time!

hang in there...two months go by quickly!

WELCOME!
Tam :)

:tams: Ot oh, here we go again :D Be careful John, she'll rape your Jeep of all its plastic doodads :D :P ;):tams:

hey... slow down guys.... :).... i would love to have those upgrade on my Jeep but please be nice for now:D .... I haven't even had the chance to drive it... i want to see how it perform all stock first.... mhan you guys are so fun to exchange post with.... I can now see how fun it could be with you guys too.... I did choose the right club....

John:yay:

Originally posted by Dukes69
:tams: Ot oh, here we go again :D Be careful John, she'll rape your Jeep of all its plastic doodads :D :P ;):tams:

OMG ROFL!! he ain't kiddin!! don't worry max - uh, well, nevermind that - please worry! we are all insane!!

just kiddin' - everyone here is a great time. she'd never rape your jeep - she asks permission first! :tams:

and by the way ... we're not a club .... just a bunch of friends - non-denominational, so you can't sue us if you get stuck on a trail! LOL

Hey John...Just to clarify...

End Caps ARE NOT upgrades. They are DOWNGRADES. If you have them on your Jeep, people will KNOW that you dont wheel it. :)

That said...wheres my drill?

T. :D

I ditched my end caps the day i got it.

Heheheee...those of us with CJ's never had to worry about that plastic stuff....

Don't worry man, you'll find that once you start tearin crap off, it's just the beginning of the intense desire to add as much stuff as you can...whether you can afford it or not...lol!

As far as how it will perform with 30's, ummm.....we need to talk.

We'll get you on 3N93 in Big Bear and you'll be convinced you need all this crap on your jeep...

:shades:

what rick means, of course, is "function over fluff"
we sometimes see too much "fluff" on the trails and fluff doesn't always have a good function. like crome steps, for instance. :D

yeppers(tm jeepchik)...Chrome dont get you home...:P :rolleyes:

Originally posted by JeepGal
yeppers...Chrome dont get you home...:P :rolleyes:

hey you better TM that yeppers :P

Originally posted by JeepGal
yeppers(tm jeepchik)...Chrome dont get you home...:P :rolleyes:

BUSTED...and fixed...

Thanks for keeping me honest JC...how in the world did I forget these things..:rolleyes: :P :D

T.

Much better :P Bet ya thought I wouldn't catch that :D

okay... fine take it off.... but easy with the drilll:p.... so who'll be interested to my first kiss with the dirt, anybody???:confused:... i'll be arriving in exactly 59 days.... and boy, time do really fly when you're having fun.... does any body here live close to miramar???.... as a newbie and being iletirate (did i spell that right???:confused:).... please pardon me if i get lost with subject...

59 days huh???

Dont make me think! What day is that?

Im sure we can come up with something :)

Tam

the san diego jeep club is down there ... carrizojim is from there! jim, pay attention! :P

Originally posted by JeepGal
59 days huh???

Dont make me think! What day is that?

Im sure we can come up with something :)

Tam

That will be the 24th of September... That's also the day that I become one with my Jeep. How's the ride on big bear, is it pretty difficult??

John

Originally posted by sarah
the san diego jeep club is down there ... carrizojim is from there! jim, pay attention! :P

Thanks Sarah:)

the big bear ride is great! it is pretty difficult for a stock height jeep with no mods, but we can get you through :)
first suggested mods: rocker guards, and sway bar disconects.
that is besides, of course the "safety equipment"
hope to see you on the trail!

Originally posted by NAILER341
the big bear ride is great! it is pretty difficult for a stock height jeep with no mods, but we can get you through :)
first suggested mods: rocker guards, and sway bar disconects.
that is besides, of course the "safety equipment"
hope to see you on the trail!

Thanks, I'll put that in mind ;)... do you have any suggestion where I can start with an easier trail???

John

well. there are lots of them. most of the trails we run, including big bear... a stock jeep can do. but of course, that really depends on driver ability, and lack of fear. either way, unless you just want to drive on dirt roads, which isnt too fun, i'd STRONGLY suggest rocker pannels. you can make them yourself, or get some for around $200 bucks. the sway bar disconnects can be bought fpor about $65 bucks, or you can make them for about $5.00. another tj owner would be glad to explain to you how to make a set. there is really nothing to it.
trails.... hmmm??
miller jeep trail, doran canyon, big bear/arrowhead, there are lots of them, and for most of these trails there are by-passes for the more difficult sections. but... again, ROCKER PANNELS :)

nailer is right.

sway bar discos: get some shakle pins to replace the bolts that connect the sway bar link to the axle from home depot. they're cheap, kind of a pain at times, but they work for beginners.

rocker guards: talk to jim at JC Fab And Design (http://jcfabanddesign.com) ... he's our fab guru! or pm him jim79cj7

also, if you're going to be "roughing it" make sure you get road hazard on your tires. see the Product/Vendor review section of this site and you'll see that we recommend America's Tire.

you're on your way!
sarah

Originally posted by sarah
nailer is right.

sway bar discos: get some shakle pins to replace the bolts that connect the sway bar link to the axle from home depot. they're cheap, kind of a pain at times, but they work for beginners.

rocker guards: talk to jim at JC Fab And Design (http://jcfabanddesign.com) ... he's our fab guru! or pm him jim79cj7

also, if you're going to be "roughing it" make sure you get road hazard on your tires. see the Product/Vendor review section of this site and you'll see that we recommend America's Tire.

you're on your way!
sarah Say Boooo to sway bars. I dont run sway bars, or trak bars. Its just added weight...:8

Thanks for the pointers guys.... I'll definitely get a rocker guard that's one of the upgrades I wanted to do anyway, but as far as the sway bars what does it really do for you.... and who's scared??? I know I don't have much experience but I'm willing to learn as much as I can... that's what you guys are for right???;);):P

they are actually ANTI-sway bars. they keep you in better control on the road. off road, however, they hinder your jeeps wheel travel. on a tj they are MUST on the road. that is why we suggest "disconnects" so you can easily disconnect, and re connect them. it willl increase wheel travel by about 6-8"

To expand for you an what Nailer said, the anti-sway bar is connected to each side of the axle and goes through bushings on each frame rail. They keep the vehicle from experiencing excessive body roll during emergency maneuvers. Basically, they keep the body from rolling, so that you don't end up on your side if you have to jerk the steering wheel to get out of someones way. By disconnecting them, you allow each side of the axle to move toward and away from the frame with only the suspension limitations (length of shock and bumpstops).

Hope this helps.

Erik

Ok, got it.... I'll make sure that I save some money for that... good FYI you guys.:8 :) :D

hehehehe...I wheeled the first few times connected...lol.

The only reason I laugh, is that it was when I met Erik (nailer) He was sitting on my hood, keeping me from rolling.:) If I was disconnected, he wouldnt have had to do it. The front drivers side tire was about 3 feet in the air:eek: :D FUN :)

Its really easy to do this, dont hesitate to go to Home Depot and do it! If you need help, let me know, and Ill help you...Im about an hour north of you :)

Here's the write up I did on it on ANOTHER forum :

Home Made disconnects for a TJ (http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=380)

Tam

Originally posted by JeepGal
hehehehe...I wheeled the first few times connected...lol.

The only reason I laugh, is that it was when I met Erik (nailer) He was sitting on my hood, keeping me from rolling.:) If I was disconnected, he wouldnt have had to do it. The front drivers side tire was about 3 feet in the air:eek: :D FUN :)

Its really easy to do this, dont hesitate to go to Home Depot and do it! If you need help, let me know, and Ill help you...Im about an hour north of you :)

Here's the write up I did on it on ANOTHER forum :

Home Made disconnects for a TJ (http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=380)

Tam

So is putting that thing as simple as it looks.... anyways.... If ever I needed help I probably just send you a line.... thanks Tam.

John

Originally posted by Max
So is putting that thing as simple as it looks.... anyways.... If ever I needed help I probably just send you a line.... thanks Tam.

John

YUP!:D

to further elaborate the need for protection, i ran rock garden 2 weekends ago in a stock YJ, made it through with no hang-ups or stucks. Here is a list of the items i hurt. Bashed front shackles(nearly bent a main spring), dented oil pan, scratched exhasut pipe, scraped under side of Tcase skid, and dented the lip of skid on the frame rail, scratched rear front spring hanger and spring, dented gas skid, and scratched the front rim. So i didnt break, and made it, surely a stock TJ can do better.

Originally posted by YJWOLF
to further elaborate the need for protection, i ran rock garden 2 weekends ago in a stock YJ, made it through with no hang-ups or stucks. Here is a list of the items i hurt. Bashed front shackles(nearly bent a main spring), dented oil pan, scratched exhasut pipe, scraped under side of Tcase skid, and dented the lip of skid on the frame rail, scratched rear front spring hanger and spring, dented gas skid, and scratched the front rim. So i didnt break, and made it, surely a stock TJ can do better.
sounds like you didnt have a spotter wolf :) only 2 of those things count. the oil pan and the almost spring. join us out there when we go... we'll see you through :D... cant promise no damage, but you will have a spotter when you need one, and a strap if it is needed.
but you did do it with no rocker protection? if that is the case... you did well, or got lucky :) that is a tough rock garden for a stock jeep to do.. are you referring to 3n-93? where there is the water crossing then a rock garden, and then another rock garden at the end?
if so... that was one of my favorite trails as a stocker. it will really challenge you :)
see you on the trail:wave:

I ran John Bull stock...Just with rocker guards. I bought them just for that run, because I KNEW that if I didnt, Id be sorry. They were my first mod. And if I were to do it again, Id do it the same way...
1) Rock gaurds and disconnects
2) lift
3) tires and wheels
4) skids skids skids(Gas tank. oil pan, control arm. steeringbox)

Tam

Hey Nailer, yeah thats the one. I did have a spotter, but c'mon in a stock YJ you're gonna get hit either way. The group i want with was all Modded Scouts. No i had no rocker protection and never hit them once. Its fun, and most challenging in a stocker, but my jeeps been wheeled stock long enough, i need to lift it already, im getting sick of coming down on my skid.

yea, that is a tough spot. i like it up there in big bear. i want to run the "pontiac sluice". be sure to join us next time we go wheeling. :) i still recommend discos, and rocker protection:D

I dunno Tam.....my list is a little more like:

1) skids
2) more skids
3) more skids
4) self-clearanced belly skid
5) more skids
6) ......

I swear I'll get to that lift some day..... ;)

When is the next run? I wanna wheel with you guys.

Originally posted by Adam
When is the next run? I wanna wheel with you guys.

We'll get something going real soon . . . I think everyone is still in Rubicon fixing mode. I think . . . I know I'm in "New Jeep Fixing Mode" :D :D I think Tammy (JeepGal) wanted to do a Pismo Beach trip, which sounds like fun! :8

Pontiac Sluice!!!

Hhhrrmnnn...Id really like to run that too :)

Big Bear is fun in the summmer...

so which and when guys?

Tam

In in and willing to go pretty much where ever

mhan.... i'm starting to get really jealous:(... I wish I can be there a lot earlier to break in my new TJ... and to learn some good techniques from you guys.... oh well patience, patience patience.... I'll see you guys one day!