OK, here is the story. I met a guy on a trip a few months ago that had one of the [very] inexpenisve air compressors from DV Innovations. The packaging claims that it will move 72lpm (approx 2.5CFM), with a maximum pressure of 150PSI, and a restart pressure of 120psi, with a recommended maximum of 40 minutes cont. use. It comes with a built in thermal overload. The cost....$25.00. Yes, twenty five dollars.

I immediately discounted this compressor because of the cost. I mean, how can they sell a compressor that *supposedly* rivals a Quick-Air II for $25?

Fast forward to late last week. I came across this link:

http://www.gearinstalls.com/pepboys.htm.

Later the same day, I talked to another guy who has one down in texas....he claimed that his would take a 285/75R16 from 15 to 35psi in 3 min 10 seconds.

Not long after that, I came across a 3rd reference to them, on another board. Good reviews there too.

So, for $25 I figured what the hell. I bought 2 of these:
http://www.dv-innovations.com/products/hv_50.htm, with the plan of running both of them to a single tank, to give me ~5CFM from a single hose.

I tried to do a quick test this morning, but couldn't find my stop watch. I had one tire at 10psi (aired down in anticipation of the test), and 3 at 23psi (bad air guage at the gas station I aired up at after the last trip). Without the stop watch, I figured it wasn't much use to try to time the compressor, so I just hooked it up and turned it on to fill the 10psi tire back up. Once I did that, I walked over to my garage compressor (6hp/30 gallon tank), grabbed the hose and air chuck, and proceeded to fill the remaining tires (at 23psi) to 33psi. Now, it doesn't take long for a 120psi tank to add 10 psi of air to a 33" tire....but by the time I aired up the 3 tires, the little compressor had brought the one tire from 10psi to 37psi! We're talking about a matter of less than 5 minutes. Not bad for 25 bucks.

Now, the one question that remains unanswered, is the service life of the compressor. Only time will tell, but the importer does offer a full line of repair parts.

The catch??? Well, Checker Autoparts (Kragen for you SoCal people), bought these as a promotional item, once they are gone, they are gone. The MSRP for these is $69.99, so if you do find another distributer, expect to pay much more than the $25 at Checker (Kragen).

Anywhoo....I figured I would pass on the info if anyone needs a compressor.....

Good info. I bought one of these at Shucks for $44 a couple of months ago. I bolted it to the abs plate and hardwired it. It's worked like a charm. My guess is it's from the same factory that the Viair 400p comes from. The specs are nearly identical as is the design.

At $25, I'd buy two. One to use, one for a spare.

That is the best thing i have heard in a while... an air compressor that a highschooler can afford!!
thanx much
Jim

Did a quick test last night. With a 285/75R16 MT/r, one compressor can take it from 10psi to 36psi in 4 minutes.

With 2 compressors tied together to a common manifold, it takes 2 minutes 20 seconds to fill the same tire from 10 to 36psi. Not bad for ~$60 (2 compressors and a couple pipe fittings).

Well, with father's day coming up and 4 vehicles and the glowing reviews of this compressor, I cleaned out Monrovia, Altadena, and Pasadena of every MV50 they had! The Deep South and Texas have sold out for about 2 weeks now.

Damn Ted, how many did you get? ;)
We just ordered 3 - two for my Jeep and a spare.

Thanks for the heads up!

Damn Ted, how many did you get? ;)
We just ordered 3 - two for my Jeep and a spare.

Thanks for the heads up!
Did you order them online? 'Cause I can't find them local. :( :D

Did you order them online? 'Cause I can't find them local. :( :D
Yes I actually went to the store today and they looked at me like I was crazy; I of course left empty handed. We just ordered them online (http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?mfrcode=QIN&mfrpartnumber=MV50) right now and ironically it said the order would be ready to pick up (at the same damn store!) in an hour - kinda funny since "they don't have them in the store," and it's ONLY available for store pickup!?!

Yes I actually went to the store today and they looked at me like I was crazy; I of course left empty handed. We just ordered them online (http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?mfrcode=QIN&mfrpartnumber=MV50) right now and ironically it said the order would be ready to pick up (at the same damn store!) in an hour - kinda funny since "they don't have them in the store," and it's ONLY available for store pickup!?!

I tried ordering an hour ago from that site, and I get the "we're out, sorry" message. :D :( I found a similar compressor at pep boys, but I have to take a closer look at it.

I tried ordering an hour ago from that site, and I get the "we're out, sorry" message. :D :( I found a similar compressor at pep boys, but I have to take a closer look at it.
Try a different ZIP code?

Yes I actually went to the store today and they looked at me like I was crazy; I of course left empty handed. We just ordered them online (http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?mfrcode=QIN&mfrpartnumber=MV50) right now and ironically it said the order would be ready to pick up (at the same damn store!) in an hour - kinda funny since "they don't have them in the store," and it's ONLY available for store pickup!?!

I had the same problem! When I went to pick up the 4 that I ordered, they told me that they had told the corporate office (who calls and places the orders for pickup), that they were out....but no one bothered to call me and let me know. So, the lady at the parts counter called around to find me 4 here in Tucson. I picked up 3 of them, and sent a buddy for the 4th (since I was getting it for him anyway).

I have also been in touch with DV Innovations. The only retail stores that carry that product is the Checker/Kragen/Schucks chain.

Now, the problem is finding where to mount the second compressor. One of them fits on the ABS plate (I don't have ABS), but I'm not having much luck....

I tried ordering an hour ago from that site, and I get the "we're out, sorry" message. :D :( I found a similar compressor at pep boys, but I have to take a closer look at it.

Pep Boys carries a compressor from the same manufacturer. It is their newer model, but is essentially the same compressor as the MV-50, according to DV Innovations anyway. Pep Boys also charges about $50 for it (still a good deal).

i think i'll put one of these on becky's jeep.
good score!

Pep Boys carries a compressor from the same manufacturer. It is their newer model, but is essentially the same compressor as the MV-50, according to DV Innovations anyway. Pep Boys also charges about $50 for it (still a good deal).

I found a similar one at Pep Boys, $25, specs looks the same.

We'll see :D

Edit: I bought the MF-1040, which doesn't have the clips to attach directly to the battery. Probably why it was only $25. :)

found one in sylmar. for 25 bucks I guess I'm gonna get one as a spare. :)

thanks for the tip bri. :8

Found them here in HB area... I bought 3...

Thanks, they look like they'll do the trick!

Michael

Damn Ted, how many did you get? ;)
We just ordered 3 - two for my Jeep and a spare.

Thanks for the heads up!

Lost track after six... :P

I bought the MF-1040, which doesn't have the clips to attach directly to the battery.

The whole reason why they stopped selling this promo item (I heard) is that people couldn't get used to the idea of clamping directly on to the battery instead of using a lighter plug. Problem is that the lighter plug is only 10 or 15 amps and not enough juice to generate CFM. The compressor you want is the MasterFlow 1050 or MV50 that doesn't have a lighter plug.

I had the reverse problem with the old TruckAir 300 that had been doing backup duty. It came with a plug and kept smoking fuses as it wanted to draw more than 10 amps. I ended up snipping the plug and attaching batt clamps.

I tried using it to air up the Wrangler as it had been running 10 psi since Moab. It got each 35" tire up to 30 psi in about 3-4 minutes (or less as I didn't care to measure), but I did notice after the air-up that the power cable (looks like lamp cord) was noticeably warm its whole length and had a funny crunching loose sound when twisted.

Seems that the QuickAir2 (similar specs) recommends running #8AWG (http://stu-offroad.com/recovery/jeep_air/qa2-1.htm) for extended wire runs. I'll be swapping out the power.

Also noticed the unit spits a lot of condensation, not a big deal probably if not running tools or lockers, but just something to consider.

Finally, I think this would make a nice OBA option for XJ's that have limited underhood room. Nice Viair in XJ rear cubby write-up (http://ericsxj.com/oba.htm)

From the popularity of the thread, looks like this little MV50 is going to be the popular OBA install on MJR for a few weeks anyway...

Lost track after six...

no wonder there arent any more!
lol.
i ordered one on line, and they cancelled it on me.
bastards.

picked mine up today... helluva deal for 25 bucks. :) I haven't held it up to the viair in the jeep yet but it looks about the same, maybe one size smaller. (the viair was over $200 :omg: )

there's still some in stock at the panorama city kragen. :)

picked mine up today... helluva deal for 25 bucks. :) I haven't held it up to the viair in the jeep yet but it looks about the same, maybe one size smaller. (the viair was over $200 :omg: )

there's still some in stock at the panorama city kragen. :)
brian,
could you grab one of those for me?
i am having no luck down here. it would be greatly appreciated ;) :yay:

i got it covered.
picked up a few of them in long beach.
rick/sarah, yours are covered as well.

this thing sure does look like the viair 400. i held them side by side, and they are very similar.
what a deal. :wave:

http://ericsxj.com/oba/oba04.jpg

http://www.partsamerica.com/product_images/img/QIN/MV50.jpg

these look very much alike. ouside of the steel case, i think they may be thge same damn thing.

great tip, goodtimes.
thanks!

thanks mang, you rock!! :wave:

"jesseyj" of this board just called me, he found some in chatsworth I believe. I had him grab me another one, so if anyone missed out let me know. :)

Hey Bri...does that mean you have an extra?

There were none in the Temecula Valley...if you have an extra, let me know.

Tam

Hey Bri...does that mean you have an extra?

There were none in the Temecula Valley...if you have an extra, let me know.

Tam

you may have to wait until the xmas/"holiday" party and choose wisely. :D

or...

sux to be u. :yay:

you may have to wait until the xmas/"holiday" party and choose wisely. :D

j/k, I'll trade you for a set of chris' rockers. :yay:

j/k, I'll trade you for a set of chris' rockers. :yay:


o.k. fine... I'll sell it to you for cost. :( :yay:

I think the Kragen in Santa Ana has 3 left... I could find out for someone, and pick it up... Let me know.

Michael

hahaha i saved up 25 dollars and bought one! its pretty cool i was gonna permanently mount it under the hood but i like to play in the mud sometimes and i dont think that would work. i feel kinda bad for you guys they had a whole crate of em up here... the guy said i was the first to buy one


Jim

you may have to wait until the xmas/"holiday" party and choose wisely. :D

or...

sux to be u. :yay:
ROFL!! Someone better save one for that!

im gunna buy 2 of these tommorw

im gunna buy 2 of these tommorw
be sure to call first, and dont' run them without the jeep running, d'oh! :P hehe

How about an update on performance- Has anyone used this as their compressor for their ARB locker? How's it standing up to prolonged use on a trail ride? :D

I aired up at the fire house at Fawnskin Sunday morning and it worked great! I mean, for 25 bucks, it can not be beat. Took about 3 to 4 minutes per tire to go from 15 to 35 psi (31s). The compressor body was hot afterwards, but that is probably normal. As far as use on the trail for lockers, I don't know. But I see no reason why it couldn't be used with a tank for on board air. Basically, the thing is AWESOME for $25.

Michael

Oh, and sorry I haven't seen any down here since you asked, Jeri Lyn.

I aired up at the fire house at Fawnskin Sunday morning and it worked great! I mean, for 25 bucks, it can not be beat. Took about 3 to 4 minutes per tire to go from 15 to 35 psi (31s). The compressor body was hot afterwards, but that is probably normal. As far as use on the trail for lockers, I don't know. But I see no reason why it couldn't be used with a tank for on board air. Basically, the thing is AWESOME for $25.

Michael

Oh, and sorry I haven't seen any down here since you asked, Jeri Lyn.

No problem, Michael. Sarah scored me a couple. Woo hoo! :D

Well, I used my compressor for the first time last weekend.

After a HOT run up upper ajax, and a quick trip back to Florence (to get something cold to drink), I proceeded to air up 3 of my tires, before the thermal overload tripped. It was 108* outside, my compressor is mounted under the brake master cylinder, so it was probably much hotter (than the ambiant temperature) when I started. I waited a couple minutes....still hot as F@*$, so I used the compressor at the gas station for the last tire. Fill time was ~4 minutes per tire (10 to 34psi, on a 285/75r16).

Maybe it'll work better when it isn't so friggin hot out.....

i tried around here and the one in south gate, supposedly has one in stock, but i tried asking the guy, but he didnt speak english and i tried in spanish and he still didnt understand, no wonder people make fun of us hispanics :mad:

Well, I used my compressor for the first time last weekend.

After a HOT run up upper ajax, and a quick trip back to Florence (to get something cold to drink), I proceeded to air up 3 of my tires, before the thermal overload tripped. It was 108* outside, my compressor is mounted under the brake master cylinder, so it was probably much hotter (than the ambiant temperature) when I started. I waited a couple minutes....still hot as F@*$, so I used the compressor at the gas station for the last tire. Fill time was ~4 minutes per tire (10 to 34psi, on a 285/75r16).

Maybe it'll work better when it isn't so friggin hot out.....

That's where mine's mounted too. I was thinking of putting a small auxilary fan near it, depending on space, and tie it into the compressor on/off switch. It's definitely going to get hot there.

Goodtimes ... you still trying to find a place for the second compressor? Unbolt that abs tray and there's a ton of room down there where you might be able fit the compressor (not sure) ... I have moved my locker pumps to the ABS tray.

Anyone have an extra they'd like to sell? I'm having a hell of a time locating one. I check the site, says they have one in stock but when I call they can't find it. I'm about to have an ARB installed and the compressor is the missing link. Perhaps a used compressor after a York conversion? I did once find the lower model for $20, MV30 but I passed on it before I decided to go ARB.

Thanks, B&T TJ

Hi all, I am new here so don't kill me for posting with something for sale but I did an internet search for a good cheep air compressor for my jeep and it brought up this thread. I read up on the MV-50 and was impressed with all your responces to it. So I went out and bought a few. If anyone is still interested in one please let me know. I was going to keep a few for myself and post some on ebay to see if anybody wanted one.

Before I go to ebay I would like to see of any of you wanted one first (ebay can be a pain in the butt.) my ebay id is mickeykoch and I have 100% pos feedback.

So let me know... You can email me at mickey@konceptcreative.com, reply to this post or send me a PM.

I was thinking $60 plus shipping would be fair since that is what the one I saw on ebay is going for.

Also any other info on just how reliable these things are would be cool so I know how many to keep for myself.

my ebay id is mickeykoch and I have 100% pos feedback.What does POS stand for?

I was thinking $60 plus shipping would be fair since that is what the one I saw on ebay is going for. hmmm... so I know how many to keep for myself.At $60 a piece, how about all of them?!

:D

Just having fun with you, but $60 is a bit steep for something that was selling for $25. Most of the folks here are pretty tight and will probably sell to each other at cost or maybe even less.

Thanks for the offer, but you might get more response and less...funning around, if you post on the for sale forum!

Good luck with yer sale!

Ha Ha, I totally understand where your comming from. If the extras I have don't sell on ebay I will for sure sell them for cost here, I have no problem with that. Just thought I would let you all know I had some before I try to put them on ebay.

I am planning on keeping like 3 of them for myself though just in case.

Does anybody really know how reliable these things are though. Are they a $25 peice of crap or are they really a deal?

Anyone have an extra they'd like to sell? I'm having a hell of a time locating one. I check the site, says they have one in stock but when I call they can't find it. I'm about to have an ARB installed and the compressor is the missing link. Perhaps a used compressor after a York conversion? I did once find the lower model for $20, MV30 but I passed on it before I decided to go ARB.

Thanks, B&T TJ

What I gather from this is that the York is the better set-up?

These compressors are a good start and far better then the POS (Peice of sh!t) ones that you plug into your lighter. York or any other On Board Air is the way to go if youre serious about wheeling :)

The last time we used these compressors (the first time we used them :P) I think we learned a valuable lesson about having your engine running ...ask Sarah :)

Tam

I just figured that since some people in this thread were looking for them and having a hard time finding them I would let you all know that I have some to sell. I posted them on ebay already so if they don't go over well there I will just unload them here for anyone that wants to cover what I paid for them.

Thanks everyone, I will let you know how they work for me. I am excited to see how they actually work on the trail.

and what happened when you used them and didn't have the engine running? Suck your battery down?

When I aired up, the battery was just fine... no problems after without engine running during the whole air up. Of course I have a newer jeep, and no carb / early fuel injection that can be finicky to start.

Michael

When I aired up, the battery was just fine... no problems after without engine running during the whole air up. Of course I have a newer jeep, and no carb / early fuel injection that can be finicky to start.

Michael

run your engine. :no:

I killed a yellow top cycling my compressor while fixing a valvestem problem, without the engine running. :(

I bought one of these from Pepboys as a "back up" to my Powertank.

Actually I regret having a Powertank. In every group there is always one or more guys with a cigarette lighter compressor that takes 45 minutes to complete the air up process. Or worse, there may be a "compressor scrounge" who doesn't even have an air up device--they want to use yours. So while I take 30 seconds per tire and am ready to drive home about 3-5 minutes total time, I have to sit around and wait for 45 more mintues for the guys who are not ready for prime time on the trail. These are typically the same guys who take 20 minutes to air down with their ignition key. So why have a Powertank!?!? Sort of defeats the purpose. But I digress.....

Anyway, I got one of these compresors because they are cheap and fast for a trial compressor. In fact they are so cheap there is no longer any excuse for going on the trail as a "scrounge" or with a CLS ("cigarette lighter special"). I plan to carry it with me and save the Powertank for times in which I am not going to have to wait around.

I have tried this compressor once. It worked fine but got really hot. It was almost too hot to touch. It is a 100% duty cycle, but is that normal for a compressor like this? For those who have bought one of these does yours do the same?

I bought one of these from Pepboys as a "back up" to my Powertank.

Actually I regret having a Powertank. In every group there is always one or more guys with a cigarette lighter compressor that takes 45 minutes to complete the air up process. Or worse, there may be a "compressor scrounge" who doesn't even have an air up device--they want to use yours. So while I take 30 seconds per tire and am ready to drive home about 3-5 minutes total time, I have to sit around and wait for 45 more mintues for the guys who are not ready for prime time on the trail. These are typically the same guys who take 20 minutes to air down with their ignition key. So why have a Powertank!?!? Sort of defeats the purpose. But I digress.....

Anyway, I got one of these compresors because they are cheap and fast for a trial compressor. In fact they are so cheap there is no longer any excuse for going on the trail as a "scrounge" or with a CLS ("cigarette lighter special"). I plan to carry it with me and save the Powertank for times in which I am not going to have to wait around.

I have tried this compressor once. It worked fine but got really hot. It was almost too hot to touch. It is a 100% duty cycle, but is that normal for a compressor like this? For those who have bought one of these does yours do the same?


i agree with EVERYTHING you said in this post.

but as for the heat on the compressor. yes they all get hot as hell. in fact i have overheated mine after airing up 4 35" tires. i thought i broke the damn thing the first time i used it.

i guess it has a mechanism to shut it off when it over heats though.
i would recommend airing 2 tires, waiting 5 minutes and doing the other 2.

i would not use this as a community compressor to air up others on the trail that are too damn cheap to buy their own ;) :no:

Erik, there is a thermal overload switch integrated into them. They will shut down when too hot, and start up again when they cool off.

One other thing to check is the bolts. I got one of these things too and found all the bolts to be loose, just past finger tight and unevenly tightened or torqued. And yes they get very hot. I was going to use mine for a OBA system for my ARB, glad I didn't.
Paul, here's a good one for ya, I'll be using my PowerTank now to operate the ARB. PowerTank makes a nice manifold kit for the ARB with the correct threading... I already had an OBA system, I just had to get frustrated to see it. I'm about ready to install it and will do some kind of write up too, with pictures.

Tom

You would have no problems using one of them for your ARB. If you put a small tank under the jeep, and made sure you didn't have any leaks, you would be fine. My compressor is mounted under the hood, and after wheeling all day in 110* temps (translating to 250 - 300* under the hood), my compressor ran for about 15 minutes (continuously) before it shut down. With a ARB and a small (2 gallon) tank, the compressor would rarely run at all....virtually no risk of overheating it in that situation. Remember that there is almost no demand for air from a ARB....just enough to move the diaphram each time you engage it.....provided there are no leaks.

One other thing to check is the bolts. I got one of these things too and found all the bolts to be loose, just past finger tight and unevenly tightened or torqued. And yes they get very hot. I was going to use mine for a OBA system for my ARB, glad I didn't.
Paul, here's a good one for ya, I'll be using my PowerTank now to operate the ARB. PowerTank makes a nice manifold kit for the ARB with the correct threading... I already had an OBA system, I just had to get frustrated to see it. I'm about ready to install it and will do some kind of write up too, with pictures.

Tom

Hey Tom. Yeah, I have seen the ARB/Powertank kits. They are not cheap. Almost the same price as buying an ARB compressor.

Hey Tom. Yeah, I have seen the ARB/Powertank kits. They are not cheap. Almost the same price as buying an ARB compressor.

About $70, I already had the tank and I didn't want to do the compressor/tank/reg./switches... thing. With the little 5# tank it's quick and easy and should last for a while, it's no good for filling tires anymore, I'll use the cheap compressor and the tank as a back up.

B&T TJ

others on the trail that are too damn cheap to buy their own ;) :no:

HEY! I resemble that remark! :wink:

My observations on the air dilemma:

1. IMHO air is important enough to not risk it on a 'cheap' compressor. If you need to re-seat a bead you may need a lot more air than the little guy can provide. A real jeeper has his own air: don't go out there without it, thank you.

2. CO2 works really well. I know I'm just a newbie here, but I've been using a 10# bottle for the last year and it works REALLY well. Cheap to refill too, and a refill lasts a LONG time. I get four sets of 35's off mine going from 10-25#'s. A refill is $13. And I don't have a bunch of plumbing BS to futz with. Just hang it on the tire rack, it's always ready. The One Source Bottle with bracket, regulator, coil hose and chuck run $225. And you're done!

3. Yorks are great, I've been around Eriks and another buddy of mine's. They put out a lot of air and they never run out. The downside is that they stink (Erik's does, no offense :) ) and they are expensive, more than double that of a Co2 tank. You guys are talking about $25 cheapo compressors vs. a $500 York?

4. While you can run ARB's off Co2 the ARB compressor is relatively cheap at $200 and comes with everything to run your lockers, clean, easy, and reliable. No offense to the plumbing nightmare to run them off a tank, but for a few more bucks you can have the real mccoy. Plus, the air switch has to be vented out or you get diff oil fumes in your rig. If you've spent a grand setting up one ARB, or 2 for 2, what's another couple hundred to do it right? I was going that route but got talked into popping for the ARB pump and now I see why.

I got a kick out of the comments about waiting for your buddies with their CLS air pumps to air up, or with no air at all. Yee gads! :wave:

...I got a kick out of the comments about waiting for your buddies with their CLS air pumps to air up, or with no air at all. Yee gads! :wave:


You know what I'm talking about!

boo hoo, you'll get over it.

I dont have on board air, and bum it all the time. If you guys that are complaining about it, dont want me to use it, say NO. Be an asshole, maybe then people like me will get OBA for themselves. In the meantime, if you are going to say yes or dont want to be an asshole, then quit bitching.

:no:

A York setup can be done for much less than $500, probably half that if you source some of the components yourself, fab your own mounting bracket, and don't go wild on fancy fittings and junk. My compressor was $28 at the junkyard. The bracket cost me some scrap 1/4" plate I had laying around and some 7018 welding rod. I did spend a bunch of money (probably $250) on all the fancy stuff from Kilby so I could bolt it together simply and cleanly and not have to bargain hunt around for parts. But it can be done cheap.

I don't think anyone here suggested that this was a great compressor. It is cheap, good as a backup or for someone who feels guilty about borrowing air all the time until they can get something better... I'm willing to loan air, but I am happy so many people bought them!

rick

the york pumps arent as expensive as you might think.
i get meine for 25 bucks at the salvage yard when they are on sale.

the york installed with all of the plumbing, gauges, tank, etc.. was right in the neighborhood of 200 bucks.
it does smell bad though. that is something i can live with.
:wave:
none of these things are fool proof. the yorks break, co2's run out of air, ... this is why i have a back up.

if my york takes a crap on the trail, i have the viair as back up to keep my lockers going.
those 25 dollar compressors make a fantastic back up unit. i am partial to the york, and i understand why many of you are partial to the co2.

if anything should be had from this thread, it is the simple fact that if you are going to take your vehicle off road, you should have a source of air.
at the low low price of twenty five measly bucks it is irresponsible not to ;) :no:

boo hoo, you'll get over it.

I dont have on board air, and bum it all the time. If you guys that are complaining about it, dont want me to use it, say NO. Be an asshole, maybe then people like me will get OBA for themselves. In the meantime, if you are going to say yes or dont wait to be an asshole, then quit bitching.

:no:

OK...just in case I ever go out with you, the answer is NO.

;)

...if anything should be had from this thread, it is the simple fact that if you are going to take your vehicle off road, you should have a source of air. at the low low price of twenty five measly bucks it is irresponsible not to ;) :no:

I could not have said it better myself. It is just common courtesy to everyone else.

OK...just in case I ever go out with you, the answer is NO.

Good. I hope you start a crusade to equip everyone who has a jeep with OBA. I'll remember that if you ever need any help from me on the trail. Unfortunately, I'm not that big of an asshole. If you need help, I will help and not bitch about it. When I get my Jeep set up with OBA, anyone that needs it, is more then welcome to it. We've all been w/o OBA once before.

If youre not into helping others on the trail, go somewhere else.

Furthermore, if this is going to turn into a paultyler crusade thread, it will end.

Good. I hope you start a crusade to equip everyone who has a jeep with OBA. I'll remember that if you ever need any help from me on the trail. Unfortunately, I'm not that big of an asshole. If you need help, I will help and not bitch about it. When I get my Jeep set up with OBA, anyone that needs it, is more then welcome to it. We've all been w/o OBA once before.

If youre not into helping others on the trail, go somewhere else.

Furthermore, if this is going to turn into a paultyler crusade thread, it will end.


????

You need to relax. It was meant as a joke.

I dont think you guys realize how much we all help each other out here. Both in times of crisis (emergency emergency:P) and otherwise. Whether its as simple as helping someone air down and disconnect the first time, to airing back up...spotting the noob, doing a build up, or helping out when its an emergency....This is where were shine. WE ARE FRIENDS. Friends help one another.

nuff said.

Tam

:cake:

be good.:no:

oh the drama... :D :yay: :cactus: :geek:

Hey y'all can use my OBA any time you want ... the least I can do after having Dukes, Erik and the rest go waaay out of their way to reintroduce the thread on all 4 of my tires back to the ground on which they belong :D

While bumming air may seem like a major issue....who cares? If you don't have OBA, it does it really mean you shouldn't be out there 'wheeling? Once you start down that road...you better have spare axles, spare output shaft for your t'case (and the ability to install it on the trial....in under 5 minutes so you don't hold up the rest of the group), carry a spare ring and pinion, and everything you need to set it up...again, in under 5 minutes....I can go on, but I'm sure you see the point. Not everyone will have everything they need all the time. So what if they don't have a compressor. Many many times I have rolled back into town and aired up there....I am sure everyone here has done the same at one point or another....how many of you have used the free air behind the car wash in Fawnskin (or whatever little town that is....)?

OBA was way down on my list of important gear until the $25 compressor came along..for that price, it is hard to pass up....but not everyone has a budget (or a wife) that allows $$$ to flow freely towards the black hole that we call "jeep". Even $25 will make some people go hungry for 2 weeks....just ask a college student who doesn't have mommy and daddy paying for school....

I think I have had my fill of the excitement I unintentiinally generated. Duke, I meant no offense and was only joking. I am sorry that did not come out clearly.

The point is simply that if you can get a compressor that does a tire in 2 minutes for around $50, get it! It is better than spending $300 on a Powertank or a QuickAir, and your trailmates will appreciate it.

That does not mean that you have to carry an axle, ring and pinion, etc. But there are certain things that I think should be a requirement for our rigs. The two things we will use everytime we go out are (1) an airdown tool, and (2) an air up device. In my opinion these should be two things that we put on the top of our list to buy for our Jeep. By the way, you can get a set of deflators for about $15. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Quickair-Deflators-FAST-and-Easy-OFFROADERS-Look_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33746QQitemZ799794 3721QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

This is an expensive hobby. It seems like everything I want for my Jeep is at least $300. That seems to be the magic price everyone charges for everything. Here you have something for far less that works great.


Paul

anyone have pics w/ these compressors hard mounted w/ an air tank?

thanks
Larry

I'll post some this week.
My air compressor is mounted below and in front of the brake booster. 4West is now selling them as "an affordable alternative" to viair. Or Quadratec, can't remember which company. :D

So I found a little write-up regarding our little compressor. I had this idea rolling in my head but was'nt sure how to do it. Now I do.
CLICK (http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/portable_oba/)

That is a pretty standard method of running a air system. It doesn't matter what your air source is, it all works the same. It is a very similar setup to wire in the clutch on a sanden compressor (or york for that matter) for automatic operation. The only difference is that you would be wiring in the clutch rather than the compressor motor.

Thread resurrection! :D

My cheap little compressor crapped out. :( So I figure I got about 8 mos of intermittent wheelin' out of it. Not bad for 20 some bucks.

Thread resurrection! :D

My cheap little compressor crapped out. :( So I figure I got about 8 mos of intermittent wheelin' out of it. Not bad for 20 some bucks.

What is wrong with it? It may be able to be repaired cheaper than replacing it (the price has gone up to $50 or so).

BTW, mine is still working fine....and the spare I bought is still sitting on the shelf.

Motor/compressor doesn't have enough ummph to run the air locker, let alone air up a tire. Since I only paid $20 some, I"m looking at upgrading. :D

Motor/compressor doesn't have enough ummph to run the air locker, let alone air up a tire. Since I only paid $20 some, I"m looking at upgrading. :D

Well your spare you sold me still works but you can't have it back! ;) My CO2 bottle set-up works well (for the 3 times I've been offroad this year). :( Soon!

B&T TJ

Motor/compressor doesn't have enough ummph to run the air locker, let alone air up a tire. Since I only paid $20 some, I"m looking at upgrading. :D

if you upgrade to a viair 400+ you should be fine for years. :yay:

Or upgrade to a York and be fine for decades :)

Or upgrade to a York and be fine for decades :)
Ha ha! Heard those explode. :D

Ha ha! Heard those explode. :D

usually. :D

JL: I'm a dealer for Extreme Outback, www.extremeoutback.com, let me know if you see anything you like there and I'll cut you a deal.

Ha ha! Heard those explode. :D

I'll have to remind mine that it's supposed to do that then :D

why would a york explode? maybe if you didnt have a one way safety on it. it gets hot and can blow a hose but the york itself is tough. its made to run exactly where it sits as an ac unit. ive never even heard of an exploding york 210 unit. btw ive ran mine for 6 yrs now and i run the hell out of it. i have even used it continuously in the garage when my garage craftsman compressor died on me. i ported an engine head with it that took about 4 hrs to do and it held up wonderfully... i paid 35.00 for the york and all the other stuff is debatable in cost. total for my oba was 300.00. you guys will go through those china compressors REAL fast.

you guys will go through those china compressors REAL fast.

Depends on your definition of "fast".

I could buy 12 compressors for the price you spent on your York setup. 12 compressors will last longer than my jeep will....

Did anyone mount their Tsunami compressor under the hood? If so, how has it held up to the heat and mud and water that gets on it?