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Rating: 1
Graded dirt road. Dry, or less than 3" water crossing depth. Gentle grades. 2WD under all conditions except snow. No width problems, two vehicles wide.

Rating:2
Dirt road. Dry, or less than 3" water crossing depth. Some ruts. Slight grades, up to 10 degrees. 2WD under most conditions. Rain or snow may make 4WD necessary. Usually one and a half to two vehicles wide.

Rating: 3
Dirt road. Rutted, washes, or gulches. Water crossings up to 6" depth. Passable mud. Grades up to 10 degrees. Small rocks or holes. 4WD recommended but 2WD possible under good conditions and with adequate ground clearance and skill. No width problems for any normal vehicle. Vehicle passing spots frequently available if less than two vehicles wide.

Rating: 4
Rutted and/or rocky road. No shelves but rocks to 9". Water crossings usually less than hub deep. Passable mud. Grades moderate, up to 15 degrees. Side hill moderate up to 15 degrees. 4WD under most conditions. No width problems, vehicle passing spots frequently available if less than two vehicles wide.

Rating: 5
Rutted and/or rocky road. No shelves. Rocks up to 12" and water crossings up to 12" with possible currents. Passable mud. Moderate grades to 15 degrees. 6" holes. Side hill to 20 degrees. 4WD required. No width problems.

Rating: 6
Quite rocky or deep ruts. Rocks to 12" and frequent. Water crossings may exceed hub depth with strong currents. Shelves to 6". Mud may require checking before proceeding. Moderate grades to 20 degrees. Sidehill may approach 30 degrees. 4WD necessary and second attempts may be required with stock vehicles. Caution may be required with wider vehicles.

Rating: 7
Rocks frequent and large, 12" and may exceed hub height. Holes frequent or deep (12"). Shelves to 9". Mud 8" deep and may be present on uphill sections. Grades to 25 degrees and sidehill to 30 degrees. Water crossings to 18" and may have strong currents. 1-1/2 vehicles wide. 4WD required. Driver experience helpful.

Rating: 8
Heavy rock and/or severe ruts. Rocks exceeding hub height frequent. Shelves to 12". Deep mud or uphill mud sections. Steep grades to 25 degrees and can be loose or rocky. Water crossings may exceed 30" in depth. Side hill to 30 degrees. One vehicle wide. Body damage possible. Experience needed. Vehicle Modifications helpful.

Rating: 9
Severe rock over 15". Frequent deep holes over 15". Shelves over 15". Mud bog conditions (long, deep, no form bottom). Over 30" water crossings with strong currents. Steep grades over 30 degrees. Sidehill over 30 degrees. May not be passable by stock vehicles. Experience essential. Body damage, mechanical breakdown, rollover probable. Extreme caution required.

Rating: 10
Severe conditions. Extreme caution recommended. Impassable by stock vehicles. Winching required. Trail building necessary. May be impassable. Impassable under anything but ideal conditions. Vehicle damage probable. Personal injury possible. Extreme caution necessary.

Green Circle Run:
Suitable for stock vehicles and/or novice drivers. May have some challenges, most will have bypasses. Expericed people should be available to instruct and spot through rough areas. Safety equipment recommended, but only roll bar/hardtop, seat belts, first aid kit, parking brake, and jack/spare tire are required. Body damage unlikely, except that caused by driver error. Some trails may be overgrown, resulting in paint scratches.


Blue Square Run:
Recommended for experienced drivers; at least one locking differential or good limited slip is highly recommended. Safety equpitment is a must. Rough areas may not have bypasses. Some runs may require additional equipment. Occasional body damage is quite likely, drivetrain breakage is also possible.


Black Diamond Run:
A few experienced hardcore off-roaders with highly modified vehicles desire runs that will push their vehicle and driving skills to the limit, and that is what these are. At least one locker is REQUIRED, (front & rear lockers, 33" tires and low gears strongly recommended).Mandatory safety and recovery equiptment Some body damage is almost guaranteed, and severe drivetrain failure (axles, driveshaft, etc.) is quite possible. Driver error on some obstacles may result in a rollover. Some runs may require additional equipment.


Crazy Black Diamond Run:
Those lunatics up in Victor Valley, the Victor Valley 4 Wheelers, have built some trails - Sledgehammer, Jackhammer, Outer Limits, etc. - that are in a class by themselves. Double Red only begins to describe them. Front and rear lockers, 33" or larger tires, and extremely low gearing (60:1 crawl or better) are REQUIRED. A CASUAL ATTITUDE regarding body damage and drivetrain breakage is also necessary.

THANKS, JIM

RECOMMENDED SAFETY EQUIPMENT, AND VEHICLE CRITERIA

this is the standard safety equiptment list adopted by Cal4Wheel from the SD4Wheelers:

Safety Requirements
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All vehicles must be street legal and maintained to conform to highway safety standards, as well as meet the minimum requirements listed below. Have the items ready to display at inspection.

Guests on Green runs must have all items marked with an *asterisk.
Guests on Red, Double Red, or Black runs must have all items.
Members are required to have all items.



* 1. Roll bar or full cage or factory hard top.

* 2. Functioning parking brake or Micro lock.

3. Tow strap or rope. No chains or straps with hooks. Recommend rated at 2 times vehicle weight.

* 4. First aid kit (what do you want when you are hurt?). It should be mounted/stored in an easily found and accessible location, so that someone not familiar with your vehicle could find it in a hurry.

* 5. Jack capable of lifting the vehicle and a tool capable of removing lug nuts (don't forget your wheel locks).

* 6. Spare tire equal to or within 3 inches (measured at the outside diameter) of existing tires on the vehicle; must be an appropriate off road type tread. No temporary spares.

7. Fire extinguisher with gauge indicating good, appropriately stored (not a missile hazard). Like the first aid kit, someone not familiar with your vehicle should be able to quickly find and access it.

* 8. Seat belts for driver and all passengers.

* 9. Antennas must not exceed 4'6" (54") in length except when longer antennas/whip are required by certain OHV areas.

* 10. Adequate attachment points front and rear, i.e., tow hooks, receiver, etc. Tow balls are generally rated for only 2,000 pounds, and that is when hooked to a trailer. They can come off with devastating results and are not recommended. Instead, for SUV's without a good tow hook attachment point, use the largest shackle or clevis (generally 1") which will fit in the tow ball hole on your stock bumper.

* 11. Battery hold downs; no bungee cords.

12. Functional 40 Channel CB radio. Handheld (walkie-talkie) types are acceptable but not recommended.

Note: Consumption of alcoholic beverages on the trail is illegal, dangerous, and strictly prohibited. Anyone violating this policy or any illegal activity will be barred from all club activities.

Trailhead:
N34°46.695
W117°03.305

Photos from the trail:
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=511&password=

2003 Campsite
N34&deg45.744
W117&deg03.900

Photos from the event:
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/jeeps/hdr.php

Flying J (truck stop)
N34&deg49.069
W118&deg53.021

Kabob Hill
N34&deg42.363
W119&deg01.973

Photos from the trail:
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/jeeps/miller.php

Panamint Valley Days Campsite:
N36&deg07.2792
W117&deg20.3635
thanks, qwiksilver.

Photos from the trail:
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/jeeps/pvd_03.php

Warner Gas Station:
N33&deg17.02
W116&deg38.07

Entrance gate:
N33&deg15.34
W116&deg34.65

thanks, qwiksilver.

Photos from the trail:
links to multiple runs: http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/index.php

Bouquet Cyn. Staging Area
N34&deg34.553
W118&deg22.394
thanks, qwiksilver.

Staging Area 1:
N 34,31.600
W 118,22.962
thanks, jmbrowning.

Other info:
jmbrowning's waypoints (http://myjeeprocks.com/maps/tracks/rowherflats.txt)

Directions to trailhead (from SoCal):
Take the 5 north to the 14 east, and get off on Sand Canyon. Make a left off the freeway, and continue straight through the canyon. It ends at Sierra Highway. Make a right, and follow Sierra Highway to the sign for Rowher Recreation area.

Photos from the trail:
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/jeeps/rowher.php

Dumont Dunes Road:
N35&deg41.540
W116&deg18.158

Photos from the trail:
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=509&password=&page=1

LAST CHANCE CANYON MAP
http://www.deathvalley.com/exploring/rover/lastchance.pdf
this is a great map i found for last chance.:wave:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=degrees&latdeg=34&latmin=56&latsec=20&longdeg=-116&longmin=50&longsec=18

here is a link for calico ghost town directions.:wave:
http://www.tankota.net/calico/CalicoArea.pdf
and a trail map of the area. 3.5 megs. in PDF
http://www.tankota.net/calico/3dcalico.jpg
3D VIEW OF THE DORAN/ODESSA RUNS AT CALICO

DUCY ERSHIM TRAIL MAP
http://www.californiajeeper.com/dusy_ershim/trail.htm
DUCY MAP IN PDF/PRINTABLE
http://www.californiajeeper.com/dusy_ershim/dusy.pdf


more ducy
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sierra/publications/pdfs/rogs/dusytrail.pdf

RUBICON TRAIL MAP
PRINTABLE PDF http://www.californiajeeper.com/rubicon/rubicon.pdf
http://www.californiajeeper.com/rubicon/trail.htm

SLICK ROCK TRAIL MAP
http://www.californiajeeper.com/slickroc/slickrock.PDF

SLICK ROCK TRAIL MAP
http://www.californiajeeper.com/slickroc/slickrock.PDF
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sierra/publications/pdfs/rogs/swamp.pdf
swamp lake map and info. :wave:

Doesnt anyone use MGRS anymore? How am I supposed to figure out this Lat-Long garbage? That's for pilots and ship captains!

Actually, this is a great thread, I was looking for something like this!!! Although I can't exactly use this info right now. Are there ratings for trails... like the ones used for downhill skiing? Like black diamond ratings, to let you know what kind of clearance you'll need, skill levels and the like?

:: edit :: SMACKING SELF ON FOREHEAD. SCROLL DOWN IDIOT! :: edit ::

Doesnt anyone use MGRS anymore? How am I supposed to figure out this Lat-Long garbage? That's for pilots and ship captains!

Actually, this is a great thread, I was looking for something like this!!! Although I can't exactly use this info right now. Are there ratings for trails... like the ones used for downhill skiing? Like black diamond ratings, to let you know what kind of clearance you'll need, skill levels and the like?

:: edit :: SMACKING SELF ON FOREHEAD. SCROLL DOWN IDIOT! :: edit ::
Hehe, glad you enjoyed. Also be sure to check out the MAPS/COORDS (http://www.myjeeprocks.com/maps) page, and we are working on also adding trail pages to the gallery with reviews, reports, etc. Stay tuned! And of course, if you have any input or suggestions, we're open to hearing them.

what about using forest service road numbers for directions (when possible)...for those of use who dont believe in GPS! :no:

is it legal to use dry creek beds as trails??? thats what we did back in AZ>>> :shades: I think i need to go on a trail scouting trip to add to that little list on the maps and coords page

what about using forest service road numbers for directions (when possible)...for those of use who dont believe in GPS! :no:

is it legal to use dry creek beds as trails??? thats what we did back in AZ>>> :shades: I think i need to go on a trail scouting trip to add to that little list on the maps and coords page

I would imagine they could add the Forest Servce road designations (Sarah - if you don't have the explanation I can write up a short paragraph on how FS road numbers are generated).

As far as the second question - ABSOLUTELY NOT. Travel in the SBNF is limited to POSTED/Designated roads only.

- if you don't have the explanation I can write up a short paragraph on how FS road numbers are generated).


Now *that* sounds interesting :beer: ;) :D

(Sarah - if you don't have the explanation I can write up a short paragraph on how FS road numbers are generated).
It has been explained to me before but I'm sure you can explain it better :P I'd be happy to post it on the site. As for the numbers, if there is any place I've missed posting one, please let me know! We will have Holcomb Creek tracks up soon, provided the GPS didn't mess up.

It has been explained to me before but I'm sure you can explain it better :P I'd be happy to post it on the site. As for the numbers, if there is any place I've missed posting one, please let me know! We will have Holcomb Creek tracks up soon, provided the GPS didn't mess up.


I'll try to get something to you by the first of next week - scrambling to add three checkpoint lanes into Terminal 1 by Friday :tongue:

Ok, checkpoint is in service (MUCH shorter lines for Southwest!), here's my "paragraph" :)

Ok, lets see if I can make sense (Electrical engineer, explaining Land Surveyor/Civil engineering – might not be good).

First, you start off with a point. I always have a point, sometimes it’s hard to see. I have several ex-wives that can attest to this!

This point will be the basis for all government surveys in the area it controls, and its latitude and longitude are fixed by astronomical observations. From this initial point, a Principal Meridian is run north and south on a line that would intersect the poles, and a Base Line is run east and west on a parallel of latitude. The Principal Meridian controls survey lines east and west, and the Base Line is the north and south control.

Land is broken into Sections, Townships and Ranges, all based on the Principal Meridian and the Baseline. In our case, the Principal Meridian runs through San Bernardino (north/south), and the Baseline is….Baseline Street!

Because of the curvature of the earth, additional lines called Guide Meridians are run every 24 miles east and west of the principal Meridian. Other lines, called Standard Parallels, are run every 24 miles north and south of the Base Line. The parallels north of the Base Line are designated First Standard Parallel North, Second Standard Parallel North, and so forth, and those south as the First Standard Parallel South, Second Standard Parallel, and so on. Standard Parallels are also called correction lines.

North and south lines are next run on true meridian from Standard Parallels and 6 miles apart, marking the survey area into strips 6 miles wide called ranges which are numbered east and west from the Principal Meridian. Similar lines are run at every 6 mile point north and south of the Base Line, and parallel with the Base Line, dividing the ranges into 6 mile squares called townships. The first township north of the Base Line and east of the Principal Meridian is identified as Township 1 North, Range 1 East, the second township north of the Base Line as Township 2 North, Range 1 East, and so on.

Getting back to the trail numbers, 3N69 “starts” in the third “Township” (or 18 miles, 3x6) North of Baseline. The number (69) is a simple progression. The “N” or “S” indicate what Township the trail starts in, and by that you can tell whether the trail is North or South of the Baseline (in our case, Baseline!) N/S trails are either 4x4 or 50” trails (quads, motorcycles). There are also “E” and “W” trails, (named for the Range in which they start, so East or West of the Principle Meridian) which are generally Hiking trails – but occasionally you’ll see a “E” or “W” motorcycle trail. These are less than 50”, so quads are not legal on them.

“X” and “Y” are “connecting/joining” major trails, other letters are “spurs”.

There will be a test on Monday…….

That's the best explanation I've heard yet. Thanks for posting :)

No problem Sarah. Some of it is from a link I have bookmarked, most from the MAP/Compass/GPS class I took in May.

Shaver Lake 4x4 Trails
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/roknxj/map-ShaverAreaTrails.jpg


Swamp Lake Trail
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/roknxj/map-swamp.gif


Spanish Trail
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/roknxj/map-spanish.gif



Red, Coyote, West, Strawberry, & Mirror Lake Trails
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/roknxj/map-red-mountain.gif


Dusy-Ershim Trail
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/roknxj/map-dusy.gif



Brewer Lake Trail
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/roknxj/map-brewer.gif



Bald Mountain Trail
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/roknxj/map-bald.gif