LOS COYOTES DECEMBER 6th AND 7th!!!!

Los Coyotes Reservation Info (http://www.tankota.com/rescopy.htm)

Directions:
Take the 15 (north from San Diego, South from L.A.) to the 79 South. Turn on 79 south (at the light) toward Warner Springs. As you enter Warner Springs turn east on Camino San Ignatio. Follow the road for about 7 miles to the reservation pay station.
(Get a map at the pay station.).
Everyone should gas up in Warner Springs.

GPS Cords:
Warner Springs Gas Station -- 33'17.02n by 116'38.07w

Entrance Shack -- 33'15.34n by 116'34.65w

We will be leaving the Warner springs gas station at 9:00 and leaving the Entrance shack at 9:15 - if you miss us at the gas station. If you miss us at the Entrance, hollar on the CB (CH. 4). We will more then likely air down at the first camp site and you can meet us there.

The Reservation charges fees for use of the area as follows:
$12 per vehicle per night.
Add $3 if you are towing something.
$10 for day use

CB Channel 4

Most all stuff at Los Coyotes can be by-passed if you dont feel up to it. :D I'll be on the by-passes, mostly. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D ;)

Tam&Chris :)

EDIT: December 6-7th Rain/Snow or Shine :D

Who's in:
JeepGal
Dukes69
Cetrov
twcguy
Nailer341
scubatch?
qwiksilver
cbremer
rick & sarah

Originally posted by JeepGal
Chris and I were thinking either the weekend of November 21st or the weekend of November 28th...

Either camp out Friday night, or meet here early Saturday morning...whatever works.

Maybe couple it with a trip out to TruckHaven and Ocotillo? Perhaps Anza?

These places are in my own backyard, and Ive never been there.

Suggestions?
Who's game?

Tam :)

Although I can't go because Los Coyotes is too much for my little Jeep. :(:( :( The weekend of the 28th might not be good. Thanksgiving and some are away or have visitors.

I, sadly, will be away both weekends.:( It's that time of year again to shoot stuff.:D

Originally posted by blkTJ
I, sadly, will be away both weekends.:( It's that time of year again to shoot stuff.:D

Mmmmmm venison. Stop making me drool. :P

ok...Id love for both of you two to make it...and maybe with some 31s you can make some of it Crickett...if not you can ride along with someone :)

How bout the first weekend of December?

Originally posted by JeepGal
ok...Id love for both of you two to make it...and maybe with some 31s you can make some of it Crickett...if not you can ride along with someone :)

How bout the first weekend of December?

Sounds better. Gives me time to work on the rig.

Camping out might be a bit frosty...but hey...my sleeping bag goes down to 0 degrees. I am trying to figure out a way to make a polartec sleeping bag liner. It wouldn't be hard and I could probably find some polartec in the garment district cheap. (wish the transit strike would end...I hate driving downtown)

Originally posted by qwiksilver
Although I can't go because Los Coyotes is too much for my little Jeep. :(:( :( The weekend of the 28th might not be good. Thanksgiving and some are away or have visitors.

I dont think your Jeep will have much of a problem. There are bypasses through most of the stuff, if I remember correctly.

I think December 5, 6 and 7 would be a better time. Although I dont know what they do about Snow and stuff . . . i.e closures.

:yay: :D

Originally posted by Dukes69
I dont think your Jeep will have much of a problem. There are bypasses through most of the stuff, if I remember correctly.

I think December 5, 6 and 7 would be a better time. Although I dont know what they do about Snow and stuff . . . i.e closures.

:yay: :D

Thank you for reminding me about snow. I am going to be taking off a lot to go skiing. I generally like to ski from December through February or March (late spring is too hard on the skis around here). If there is snow on the ground I will have to make a choice between Jeep and ski. :confused:

Yeah!!

Lets gooooooo...............

Originally posted by qwiksilver
Although I can't go because Los Coyotes is too much for my little Jeep. :(:( :( The weekend of the 28th might not be good. Thanksgiving and some are away or have visitors.

There are bypasses for just about everything there. A stock Jeep could have plenty of fun in Los Coyotes.

BTW, my name is Josh, you can count me in if you go the 5,6,7th of December. It would be interesting in the snow!

Josh

Originally posted by twcguy
There are bypasses for just about everything there. A stock Jeep could have plenty of fun in Los Coyotes.

BTW, my name is Josh, you can count me in if you go the 5,6,7th of December. It would be interesting in the snow!

Josh

I was told that it would not be a good idea to take mine there yet. Not only is there an issue of the stock Jeep, but the driver inexperience. Just too many places for me to get into trouble.

A Jeep lacking certain items can make it through if the driver has skill and good spotters. Ask Chris about getting through the Notch without being locked. :D

Snow? I am pretty good in the snow. Spent 2 years in Fairbanks and drove the Alaskan/Canadian Highway in January in a Toyota Celica. Got all my snow training in one 2 week stretch.

Originally posted by qwiksilver
I was told that it would not be a good idea to take mine there yet. Not only is there an issue of the stock Jeep, but the driver inexperience. Just too many places for me to get into trouble.

A Jeep lacking certain items can make it through if the driver has skill and good spotters. Ask Chris about getting through the Notch without being locked. :D

Snow? I am pretty good in the snow. Spent 2 years in Fairbanks and drove the Alaskan/Canadian Highway in January in a Toyota Celica. Got all my snow training in one 2 week stretch.

If you stay on the bypasses, it is just like any dirt road. When I was there a couple of months ago, the main roads were all very smooth. All obstacles that I saw - Jeep squeeze, Left turn hill, etc. had a bypass.

Trust me, it would still be fun in a stock Jeep. Very scenic too, so long as it does not burn up in the next few days.

I bow to your snow experience. :)

Josh

i'm in... (party at tams house) early december sounds better to me than the late november dates ;)
does it get a lot of snow there?
:wave:

Originally posted by twcguy
If you stay on the bypasses, it is just like any dirt road. When I was there a couple of months ago, the main roads were all very smooth. All obstacles that I saw - Jeep squeeze, Left turn hill, etc. had a bypass.

Trust me, it would still be fun in a stock Jeep. Very scenic too, so long as it does not burn up in the next few days.

I bow to your snow experience. :)

Josh

What town is close to Los Coyotes? I have a DeLorme book for Southern California. I can look it up.

Warner Springs, I believe, is the closest town. I think.

Originally posted by NAILER341
i'm in... (party at tams house) early december sounds better to me than the late november dates ;)
does it get a lot of snow there?
:wave:

Im up for a pre/post run party...:) Ill even warm the spa up nice and hot :P :D

Tam :)

Originally posted by JeepGal
Im up for a pre/post run party...:) Ill even warm the spa up nice and hot :P :D

Tam :)

Whoo Hoo! Banzai!

So what is the exact date that has been deceided on.I may need to take the day off from work.

So is this still on? 5-7th of December?

I'm still in if it is!

Josh

I might just do the Saturday and Sunday thing. We are coming into a busy period at work. Clients dumping last minute stuff on us and we may be short handed. Plus it depends on what the office manager does. She and I are the office notaries and one of us has to be here.

Its still on!! December 6-7th! Rain, Snow, Or Shine! :8

Originally posted by Dukes69
Its still on!! December 6-7th! Rain, Snow, Or Shine! :8

Calendared! And if it rains I will bring oars. :D

Maybe scare up an outboard motor and we can water ski behind the Jeeps. :P

Sweet, the 6 & 7th it is. Are you guys meeting up at the main campground and going from there?

BTW, my name is Josh, I will be coming up from Poway in my Cherokee.

Josh

Originally posted by twcguy
Sweet, the 6 & 7th it is. Are you guys meeting up at the main campground and going from there?

BTW, my name is Josh, I will be coming up from Poway in my Cherokee.

Josh

I will have the least modified TJ out there. It just had its first oil change this week. I am renting a truck to go get my 31s this weekend...if Sarah and I can hook up. :D :D :D

Originally posted by qwiksilver
I will have the least modified TJ out there. It just had its first oil change this week. I am renting a truck to go get my 31s this weekend...if Sarah and I can hook up. :D :D :D

why ya renting a truck...I know for a fact that you can fit 5 tires in the back of a jeep:P

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/p14e57c4c7b1d5fd0b54014c36834fe2f/fc6fde55.jpg

this was when Em was little...the day after I got 31's from Kirk :)

Tam:)

Originally posted by JeepGal
why ya renting a truck...I know for a fact that you can fit 5 tires in the back of a jeep:P

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/p14e57c4c7b1d5fd0b54014c36834fe2f/fc6fde55.jpg

this was when Em was little...the day after I got 31's from Kirk :)

Tam:)

Thank you Tams! :D You just saved time and money! (and the fact that I would have to drive to a neighborhood I hate to get the cheap truck.)

I may only be able to due the Sunday run.just let me know were and when to hook up with everyone

Originally posted by twcguy
Sweet, the 6 & 7th it is. Are you guys meeting up at the main campground and going from there?

BTW, my name is Josh, I will be coming up from Poway in my Cherokee.

Josh

Since they made ya repeat yourself, WELCOME JOSH!


I'll be there. I gotta get out. Hopefully I can bring some friends along who are rockcrawling virgins in a LEASED Jeep.:D :D

After party sounds fun. I can't remember the last time I was in a hot tub.:8 :D

Originally posted by mikeythefireman
Since they made ya repeat yourself, WELCOME JOSH!


I'll be there. I gotta get out. Hopefully I can bring some friends along who are rockcrawling virgins in a LEASED Jeep.:D :D

After party sounds fun. I can't remember the last time I was in a hot tub.:8 :D


1. Leased Jeeps? :eek: Virgins? :eek: Are we sacraficing something? ;)

2. I do remember the last time I was in a hot tub...and would like to forget. :eek:

Yeah, the virgins are a gift. I always like to bring presents to the party.:D :D


I remember the last time, I just think it's better that I forget, at least under oath.:D :D

Ok, we're camping Sat night? Anyone wanna give me directions?

Originally posted by mikeythefireman
Yeah, the virgins are a gift. I always like to bring presents to the party.:D :D


I remember the last time, I just think it's better that I forget, at least under oath.:D :D

Ok, we're camping Sat night? Anyone wanna give me directions?

Will those leased Jeeps be needing new wheels and tires after we get through? ;)

Los Coyotes PICS!!!
PICS HERE :D (http://www.tankota.com/cc4pics.htm)

Directions and GPS cords. to follow shortly.

Just out of curiosity, who wants to make this a 2 day run (Sat and Sun)? Camping is available, so waddaya say? 2 days or one day?

Weather for Warner Springs (http://www.weather.com/weather/local/92086?lswe=92086&lwsa=WeatherLocalUndeclared)

Looks like it will be nice-ish :D Probably a little on the cold side, but thats why we have heaters, right?

unless you dont have any doors, then the heater doesn't do a damn bit of difference. :8

chris,

http://myjeeprocks.com/forums/images/edit.gif



:yawn: :D :D

kthxbye :D

btw, i will be there, not sure about camping... lemme check my busy schedule :P

I have no heater.So heaters are out for me.I would love to go too,but we will see how it works out.Still need a tent,and camping gear.

Originally posted by cbremer
chris,
http://myjeeprocks.com/forums/images/edit.gif
:yawn: :D :D
kthxbye :D
btw, i will be there, not sure about camping... lemme check my busy schedule :P

chew got it hommie

I'm camping.:D

I'm in for 2 days. Great info Chris. Looks like a great place to play. Thanks. :D

I'll probably camp, too. I do not know if they changed their prices or not, but the last time I was there it was:

4WD Camping
$20 per night
$25 with tow

w/ a group discount of $5 per vehicle (6 or more)

2WD Camping
$12 per night

Day use:
$15 4wd
$20 w/ tow 4wd
$10 2wd

Gate open from 8-10pm

Call 760-782-0711 for more info!

Josh H

I don't know about you guys, but with Christmas around the corner, camping there would be a bit expensive for me.

Hi Everyone!

Just found this place today, and about laughed when i saw this thread.

I will be up there with 5-6 of my Jeeping buddies that Saturday we've had the trip planned for a few weeks now.

Hope to see/meet you guys there.


We are bringing a GPS and re-mapping LCIR the map they give you at the gate is horrid to say the least and alot of the trails have changed/expanded since it was made. We plan on making a new map once we are done. I think we are even going to bring some stakes and boards and label the trails.

We plan on hitting:

El Hill
Ladybug Lane
Helicopter Pad
Jeep Squeeze
Bronco Hill
Left Turn Hill
Rock Garden
etc....

We will have at least 3 vehicles equiped with winches, an OBA, a welder....etc. We will also have about 2 or 3 stock Jeeps with us that are 1st timers. We are usually on channel 16 a few guys run motorola's as well usually channel 4(sub 4).

For those that haven't been there before everything mentioned in this thread is correct. I use to run LCIR in my Jeep when it was 100% stock and i had no problems at all. Sure there are areas where you need lockers, or need decent clearance, but there are bypass's for all those areas as well.

EDIT: Some LCIR (http://www.dustyland.net/scbloscoyotes-nov03/index.html) pics to view here too. One of the guys i wheel with has a 66 bronco and his club was up there a few weeks ago and we met up with them and showed them how it's done in Jeeps!

Welcome to the site! That's great that you found us in time for the run! Looking forward to meeting you guys :duh:

Just found out all of 2 minutes ago that my buddies are also going this Saturday to LCIR, i will be in Las Vegas so i'm a no-go for that trip, but i'll be there on the 6th.

Just thought i'd mention it for those that might be local and want to go this weekend as well, let me know if you do and i can easily put you in contact with these guys.

I too will be up there for the first time tommorow(SAT). I am bringing a few friend and we all have stock vehicles but it sounds like a good place to see. Hope to see you up there.

Anyone else in or out?



:D

Originally posted by Dukes69
Anyone else in or out?



King4wd's are out!! Megan has a Girl Scout thing to do at Apple Valley Airport to earn a badge and I recently got back into clogging (a form of tap dancing!)

Originally posted by king4wd2
King4wd's are out!! Megan has a Girl Scout thing to do at Apple Valley Airport to earn a badge and I recently got back into clogging (a form of tap dancing!)

I know what that is. :D My friend does it. Sort of a family tradition for her. I just got back with my dance teacher too. :D

Just too bad you guys won't be there. :(

BTW...will be there. :8

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dukes69
[B]Anyone else in or out?

I cannot make it, as my Stupid Jeep is broken. I won't be cloggin either!

Originally posted by tjTerry
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dukes69
[B]Anyone else in or out?

I cannot make it, as my Stupid Jeep is broken. I won't be cloggin either!
what did you do to your jeep?!

Originally posted by NAILER341
what did you do to your jeep?!

My quick locker started making alot of noise
4 wheel parts just gave me a new one,I need to install.
Terry

I will be camping SAT night so I am in for both days. I am bringing several people and vehicles with me. Looking forward to seeing you up there.:D

I'm still in!

I will be coming with a couple Cherokees and will be camping Saturday night as well.

We should all try to meet up at the gate so that we can get the group discount (if they still do it).

Looking forward to meeting everyone.

Josh H

awesome :)

are you guys coming up 78 or 79?

Tam :)

What's the time on this again? Oh, and where? Are we stopping for Bkfast? :D

Mikey Mikey Mikey...I PM'd ya...:)

Well i just got back from Las Vegas today and i was able to talk to one of the guys in my group going on the 6th.

We currently have 7 going for sure, we might have a 8th as well. Apparently they went to LCIR Saturday and one of the guys wasted an axle shaft. I'm not sure if his Jeep will be back up for the 6th or not i'm heading to his house tomorrow to check out the damage.

We usually meet at the gas station in Warner Springs to stock up on some food, fill the tanks and head to the front gate as a group.

I will get more firm details this week and post here, we usually meet pretty early in the morning and hit the gate right when it opens.

sorry to say I won't be able to make it. Make sure you guys don't miss tobbogan (http://groups.msn.com/myTJpics/reenlismentloscoyotes673.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=257) .:yay:

I am coming straight up from Poway, Warner Springs is a bit over an hour away from here.

I will try to meet everyone at the gas station. The gate opens up around 8am, should we try to all meet up around 7:30 at the gas station (it is a few miles to the gate)?

Late arrivals could always be met up with later at the so-called "main camp area". It is really easy to find.


Josh

Originally posted by mikeythefireman
What's the time on this again? Oh, and where? Are we stopping for Bkfast? :D

I was thinkin' maybe everyone whod like to, could meet for Breakfast at Siggys in Temecula on 79 South, about 5 min from the 15 fwy. From there its about 40 min away. Maybe around 730am or so?

Any takers?

Tam :)

(directions to Siggys: Take 15 Freeway, exit onto 79 South in Temecula(not 79 North), head east towards Indio. About 3 miles down on your left. Turn left onto Margarita, and an immediate right into the Albertsons Parking lot. Siggys is in the south east corner:))

As long as the coffee is good...I'm in. It's all about the coffee. :8

Well my group is going to be meeting at the gas station in Warner Springs at 7:30 AM, we will be leaving the main camp site around 8:30 AM to start wheeling.

I am heading up to my buddies house in Murrieta on Friday so we can do some last minute work on my rig as well as give the 3 Jeeps a good once-over. I'm going to just stay at their house and leave with them early on Saturday morning to make the most of the day.

We will be starting off on LadyBug Lane and Bronco Hill and work our way towards Pirates of the Caribbean, Tobaggan Hill, Bobsled Run and then Bagby's Rock. We plan to take Manzanita Loop over to El Hill.

Also, somewhere along Rock Canyon Road you come VERY close to the Old Mine that is accessed from Appian Way, where you turn off WAY back by the corrals to get to. We've never been back there so it might be a recon mission of sorts.

Basically there are a ton of trails in the area we are heading, alot of them we haven't explored yet.

We normally end doing Dangerous Road, Jeep Squeeze and Left Turn Hill, though time is always a factor so that might not happen.

Hope to run into all of you during the day. Do you all have a plan as far as where you are starting and what areas you plan to wheel?

Our group should be rather easy to spot, there will be 2-3 Bronco's, a green TJ Sahara, a green YJ Sahara, a Blue YJ Renegade and a brown CJ to name a few of the easier to spot ones.

Originally posted by tjTerry
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dukes69
[B]Anyone else in or out?

I cannot make it, as my Stupid Jeep is broken. I won't be cloggin either!

The Jeep isn't stupid :D I will be clogging, but not until evening. Megan's girl scout thing is in the air, so to speak. Pun intended. I haven't heard if it was still on. Regardless, Los Coyotes would still be out.

YAY, Los Coyotes in less then 2 days!!! I cant wait, there is some AWESOME wheeling there. :8


:)

Had to pack up and get the gear in line last night because tonight is going to be a nightmare.

But looking forward to it! :D

Originally posted by qwiksilver

But looking forward to it! :D

this should be fun for you... :D can't wait to hear how you like the trails.:yay:

Originally posted by PondScum

Hope to run into all of you during the day. Do you all have a plan as far as where you are starting and what areas you plan to wheel?

It looks like there is a group meeting in Temecula at 7:30, if they leave at 8am they should be at LCIR around 9-9:30.

I would like to get there early as well, does anyone want to set a time to meet up at the main camp area? If there are going to be several groups of people coming up at different times it is probably the best spot to meet up.

As far as runs go, I have only seen all of the main (fire) roads, Ladybug lane, Dangerous road, Jeep squeeze and Left Turn Hill. I know there are bypasses for just about everything in the park, so I am up for anything.

Can't wait!

Josh

Originally posted by blkTJ
this should be fun for you... :D can't wait to hear how you like the trails.:yay:

You really should be there. :)

Originally posted by Dukes69
YAY, Los Coyotes in less then 2 days!!! I cant wait, there is some AWESOME wheeling there. :8


:)

This scares me. Does this scare anyone else? I've got a fear of anything that excites you offroad. You're not gonna break my Jeep are ya? At least not bad, right?:D

Originally posted by mikeythefireman
This scares me. Does this scare anyone else? I've got a fear of anything that excites you offroad. You're not gonna break my Jeep are ya? At least not bad, right?:D

Don't worry. Brian thinks this will be fun for me and I like to scare myself without breaking the Jeep. :D

You two are funny :) Come on Mikey...youll be fine, we wont let you do anything to break your Jeep :P

<Said in best soup kitchen voice> NO FUN FOR YOU!

Tam :)

Originally posted by JeepGal
You two are funny :) Come on Mikey...youll be fine, we wont let you do anything to break your Jeep :P
Tam :)

Since when?!?:D I probably need to toughen up a little for the Rubicon. Maybe I'll just close my eyes a lot.:eek: :D

Originally posted by mikeythefireman
This scares me. Does this scare anyone else? I've got a fear of anything that excites you offroad. You're not gonna break my Jeep are ya? At least not bad, right?:D

:D :D :D

Originally posted by mikeythefireman
Since when?!?:D I probably need to toughen up a little for the Rubicon. Maybe I'll just close my eyes a lot.:eek: :D

Ok, you're getting worried over Los Coyotes and you plan to do the Rubicon? :confused: Does not compute.

Oh yeah...I have a full bottle of Cuervo for after the Jeeps have been put to bed...drink up gang...'cause I ain't cartin' the thing back home. :D :D :P

Just wait till we got closer to the 'con. Then you'll hear worried.

have fun guys, take lots of picts.

Hope you all will have fun! Megan's girl scout trip to Apple Valley Airport was cancelled due to pending storm coming through! Oh well! Don't forget the pics!!

have fun gys,and like cetrov said,TAKE LOTS OF PICS!

I did a big No No...pics later. :yay:

BTW...I'm not Chris...

I'm Crickett...I'm just borrowing the computer. :D

Originally posted by Dukes69
I did a big No No...pics later. :yay:

BTW...I'm not Chris...

I'm Crickett...I'm just borrowing the computer. :D

Huh??? :D Pics later? :confused: I thought everyone was there until Sunday?

We are staying here til Sunday. and on that note . . . is anyone planning on coming out here for tomorrow's run?

:D

what happened. do tell. please.

No, we won't be able to come out tomorrow. Sandy (me) and Sean are sick with cold's and we're both feeling miserable. :( I hope to be feeling well soon :D I better be since I always get sick at Christmas time:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Dukes69
I did a big No No...pics later. :yay:

BTW...I'm not Chris...

I'm Crickett...I'm just borrowing the computer. :D


Crickett lost her line... and climbed a tree.....
(pictures to come...Imagestation is down :()

She layed BlackJack down on his side.

And somehow managed to come up with a smile on her face.

The Jeep has some minor damage, we righted it quickly, and continued on the trip:)

And we're out to go wheeling again today...whos coming?

Tam :)

USE THE MJR GALLERY!!!
MUST-SEE-PICS!!!!

for gods sake! dont make us wait for the pics!:eek: hope all is well crickett! the rest of you guys be careful out there. :wave:

Well unfortunately i didn't run into any of you with the group i was with. We didn't see any other people actually which rather suprised me, we normally run into others along the way.

We started off alittle after 9am, we all met at the main campsite aired down, unpinned...etc and headed out.

We began our morning doing Appian Way and Old Mine Road and then moved to Which Way Hill, Ball Bearing Hill, 3 Sisters Peaks, Bobsled Run and Tobogan Run. Around 2pm we moved to 4 Corners and did Lady Bug Lane and finished our day doing Dangerous Road.

We rolled out of LCIR alittle after 5pm. We stopped back at the main camp site because one of the guys in our group had towed his Willys up with his Land Rover. The main campsite was empty i believe there was a Cherokee parked nearby, but it was unattended.

This was one of the best trips at LCIR i've been on. I suffered the only damage and it was very minor. I dented one of my sidestep flares when i rubbed a tree in a tight spot. It caused a small rip in the plastic, but the flare was easily pulled out (no damage to the body at all). I'm getting rid of those sidesteps anyhow for some rockguards so now i have justification to make the purchase!

We did run into a parked Bronco on one of the trails that we later learned had broke when it's fan broke and threw itself into its radiator. The Bronco was one of the guys from Socal Bronco's that was up there with a few other Bronco's. One of my buddies with a 66' Bronco is in that club and ended up wheeling with them instead of our group. He passed the info on the brokedown Bronco to us over the cb.

Our group ended up consisting of 8 vehicles. (4 TJ's, 3 YJ's and a Willys). We only had to do some minor tow strapping we never even had to break out the winches which was a suprise. It must have rained recently up there traction was excellent.

All in all we had a great trip i just wish we had ran into some of you along the way. :(

Here are some rollover pics - Sorry about the image quality.

http://community.webshots.com/album/103706124swkUKo

More pics to come later.

I had a great time!

http://community.webshots.com/s/image5/0/79/83/103707983EiOyvW_ph.jpg
oh, poor crickett! that is terrible! well.. at least no one got hurt, and you can thank your lucky stars that it is only a windshield frame that was damaged. i cant believe that you are the first to flop! i thought for sure it would be me or chris! :D
well.. i guess your jeep is "broken in" now :wave:
MORE PICS!

Sorry to see that Cricket but like Eric said, at least your ok. Hands inside at all times!

Tires look good.

kirk

omg! how much damage to the jeep? glad to hear everyone's ok --

Wow glad to hear no one got hurt and the Jeep only took minor damage.

What trail did that happen on?

Originally posted by PondScum
We rolled out of LCIR alittle after 5pm. We stopped back at the main camp site because one of the guys in our group had towed his Willys up with his Land Rover. The main campsite was empty i believe there was a Cherokee parked nearby, but it was unattended.

All in all we had a great trip i just wish we had ran into some of you along the way. :(

i bet you saw us on the way out (past the check-in booth)- we were the nice size group on the side of the road airing up, etc. i distinctly remember seeing the Willys being towed by the Rover :D

IIRC, our mishap was on Dangerous Road :confused: but i'm not positive. Crickett got away with a slightly tweaked windshield frame, cracked windshield glass, and a bent support for the soft-top. It's not broken, just broken-in :D



i'm glad my little bit of breakage has been forgotten :-P

Originally posted by cbremer
i bet you saw us on the way out (past the check-in booth)- we were the nice size group on the side of the road airing up, etc. i distinctly remember seeing the Willys being towed by the Rover :D

IIRC, our mishap was on Dangerous Road :confused: but i'm not positive. Crickett got away with a slightly tweaked windshield frame, cracked windshield glass, and a bent support for the soft-top. It's not broken, just broken-in :D



i'm glad my little bit of breakage has been forgotten :-P

Crickett, sorry to hear about the Jeep! Are you okay? Do you feel that your an experienced driver now? :D j/k Seriously, I'm glad you're okay!

Also, Cbremer, what was your breakage? :D

Ya know...all you can do is grin. :D

No one is quite certain how or what happened (ramped a tree or fell in a hole...or both...who knows...or cares at this point). All I can say is the first mistake was me not taking the bypass. I got too cocky and paid for it. :rolleyes:

Cetrov, this ain't my first. I have been upside down as a passenger. You just grab the inside of the seat, duck your head and enjoy the ride. Then you shut off the Jeep, wait for your buddies to stablize you and help you out. If you are upside down, never try to get out alone...you will fall on your head. You know, this roll happened so slowly. It didn't crash until the last few inches. Or at least it felt like it. The Jeep just laid down like a tired dog. ("Here's a good spot in the trail to take a nap.")

I thought it was funny riding with Chris today. He decided to ramp a tree too...but he meant to do that and he got nice pictures out of it. Then we were driving back and a tree reached out and touched his Jeep...guess where...yep, windshield frame...some minor dentage. Just a tree love kiss.

You know, we all roll it sometime. I just thought I would get mine over now. Before the Christmas rush. :P

Originally posted by qwiksilver
Ya know...all you can do is grin. :D
:D
Originally posted by qwiksilver
You know, we all roll it sometime. I just thought I would get mine over now. Before the Christmas rush. :P

We haven't rolled YET, but I know it's gonna happen one day. I thought we were going to roll on the Defense Mine run at Panamint. Scary feeling!!!!!

brings a whole new meaning to ROCK AND ROLL :P

Long long long day...I had to catch up with the guys today, they left before me...I used my tire deflators on the trail, and aired down while driving...when we got to the lookout(about 8-10 miles in), we got out and looked down to find ALL FOUR TIRES FLAT. Sigh...thank GOD they were mtr's. David and I were completely alone, and slowly limped back to main camp, driving on my rims, where we waited patiently for someone (anyone) to return from their outings. All I could think of was cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching...how in the world am I gonna afford new tires? Finally, about 45 min later, some horses and riders came back, and miraculously had a little tire inflator (the kind you plug into your lighter) and filled the tires to 10 lbs...and continued our search for Chris and Mikey..didnt find them for 3 1/2 hours, just as it was getting dark, cold and wet.

Theres no place like home, theres no place like home, theres no place like home.

Sigh...

lesson learned...NEVER air down alone.

Tam :)

I'm glad everyone came out of this alright.

Crickett, sorry to hear about your "flop". Your right, it's not really an "if", but a "when". Hope your insurance covers it.

Tam, that just plain sucks!!!:( Glad everything worked out for you in the end.:8 But let me make a suggestion to anyone here who wheels more than once or twice a year... GET A DAMN COMPRESSOR!!! you don't need a york, an electric works just fine and is as easy to install as a CB. IT'S TIME PEOPLE!!!:rolleyes:

hope to see all out on the trail very soon.:yay:

Originally posted by sarah
I'm glad everyone came out of this alright.

Crickett, sorry to hear about your "flop". Your right, it's not really an "if", but a "when". Hope your insurance covers it.

Tam, that just plain sucks!!!:( Glad everything worked out for you in the end.:8 But let me make a suggestion to anyone here who wheels more than once or twice a year... GET A DAMN COMPRESSOR!!! you don't need a york, an electric works just fine and is as easy to install as a CB. IT'S TIME PEOPLE!!!:rolleyes:

hope to see all out on the trail very soon.:yay:


ummmm... oooops.:rolleyes: :D I posted that, not sarah. sorry. duh.:D :yay:

I am stuck being awake...waiting for my brother to call.

Thought I would throw the pics up...but imagestation is not letting you guys in.

can you link us to the album?

Originally posted by blkTJ
can you link us to the album?

Tried that...no go. I will have to use the website. That will take some fancy typing...but I can control it. Now if my ftp program will just work. I am stuck waiting on a phone call right now...plenty of time...maybe.

I am tired and not feeling 100%. I have had a long weekend. Please be patient. :(

Tam...clean out your PMs...quick! Please...need to talk.

Originally posted by JeepGal
Finally, about 45 min later, some horses and riders came back, and miraculously had a little tire inflator (the kind you plug into your lighter) and filled the tires to 10 lbs...and continued our search for Chris and Mikey..didnt find them for 3 1/2 hours, just as it was getting dark, cold and wet.

Theres no place like home, theres no place like home, theres no place like home.

Sigh...

lesson learned...NEVER air down alone.

Tam :)

I am a firm believer in belt & suspenders. Despite the CO2 tank (http://myjeeprocks.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=895), I also tote around a TruckAir plugin compressor. The lil yellow ones are no bigger than a brick and cost $9 at Fry's.

I also tote around a TruckAir plugin compressor.

yup...thats what I used to air up...really slow but did the trick.

qwiksilver, i can create a guest account for you to upload your pictures to the MJR gallery. let me know if you would like me to do that :)

Originally posted by JeepGal
yup...thats what I used to air up...really slow but did the trick.

I wonder if those would be good for people who don't have on board air to carry just in case.

Well Tam, you did prove you can drive on those tires quite a ways with no air in them without suffering damage. They are a well made tire. :8

Originally posted by blkTJ
ummmm... oooops.:rolleyes: :D I posted that, not sarah. sorry. duh.:D :yay:

Thanks Brian, I am not touching my insurance. It's too high already. $1600 a year. And the Jeep is cheaper than the VW. Go figure :rolleyes:

I am going to have to get into a bank account I really don't want to touch. This is going to be the most painful part. I can't laugh here. :(

I have people across the country searching for parts for me. My buddy in Oklahoma is getting in touch with his brother in Long Beach.

My brother still doesn't know about it. His wife hasn't checked her email yet. I am going to catch all holy hell for this.

And you are right about the not if but when. You almost did a spectacular endo that would have had you hanging in your seatbelt. The gods decided not that day for you.

They decided Saturday was my turn because I got too cocky. :rolleyes:

(Punishment: Write a hundred times, "I will not follow Mikey just because we have similar equipment.")

stand by for pictures



:D

Heehee...new idea for a bumper sticker:

"Been there. Done that. Got the dents and left."

Jeep Squeeze
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0093.jpg
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0097.jpg
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0100.jpg
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0102.jpg

Glass alley
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0112.jpg
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0113.jpg

Dangerous Road
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0122.jpg
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0125.jpg
before
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0133.jpg
after
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0135.jpg

Chucks OOPS!
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0143.jpg
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0152.jpg

The rest of the pics are here - MJR Los Coyotes Pics (http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=516&password=)

TJ windshield frame & glass on ebay $150 right now. could probably be shipped UPS (i don't imagine it to be very heavy):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33686&item=2446998384


you buy the paint, and i'll spray it for you :D

My smashed junk

http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0167.jpg

:D :D :D

Originally posted by Dukes69
My smashed junk

http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/data/516/3100_0167.jpg


:D :D :D

a pittance... at least your paint is intact :D:P (mostly)

More pics forthcoming. It was a lot of fun. Thanks again Tam and Chris.

wow you guys sure wrecked a lot of stuff for a small trip to the mall :D that looks like a cool trail.
crickett: check your pm fopr a link to some parts.

Originally posted by NAILER341
wow you guys sure wrecked a lot of stuff for a small trip to the mall :D

Those speed bumps are a bitch! :D

Thanks gang... I am afraid D/C changed the Jeep for 03. The parts to older Jeeps don't match up. A friend in New York bashed the top of her windshield on a tree and had to get a new one because they couldn't find a wrecked 03. I got that happy news earlier today.

Oh, notice that the damage on Chris' windshield frame is on the passenger side. I was sitting on the passenger side at the time it happened. I guess I haven't hugged a tree recently and they are getting a little resentful.

check out the vid, courtesy of tams:
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=134&nocache=1

Thanks Sarah. :D

Cool,one video that I finally want to see worked.Glad you guys got out of there ok.

Originally posted by qwiksilver
Thanks gang... I am afraid D/C changed the Jeep for 03. The parts to older Jeeps don't match up. A friend in New York bashed the top of her windshield on a tree and had to get a new one because they couldn't find a wrecked 03. I got that happy news earlier today.

Oh, notice that the damage on Chris' windshield frame is on the passenger side. I was sitting on the passenger side at the time it happened. I guess I haven't hugged a tree recently and they are getting a little resentful.


This is not totally true. Your windshield and top should be the same. If you look in the catalogs the tops are for 97-03. That means the top and windshild will be the same.

I got a video of most of the rollover, too. How do I post it? I'll be online tomorrow night with it if you could help me. :D

Oh Mikey, Get me a copy and I will add it in to the "best of" dvd I am working on.

all the near flops and stuff but no roll overs.

Let me know.

Kirk

Originally posted by igofshn
This is not totally true. Your windshield and top should be the same. If you look in the catalogs the tops are for 97-03. That means the top and windshild will be the same.

There are differences. Not all the tops fit the 03. Just had someone on another list complain that. A couple of other 03 owners have warned me as well. (Seems I am not the only one not afraid to break a new Jeep.)

Originally posted by Cetrov
Oh Mikey, Get me a copy and I will add it in to the "best of" dvd I am working on.

all the near flops and stuff but no roll overs.

Let me know.

Kirk

Unfortunately, we didn't get the actual crash (darn). :(

After looking at everything here's what went wrong (after my stupid idea of NOT taking the bypass):

Slipped off something (rock?); climbed tree; fell in hole; fell over.

Had I made a smart move once in the trail of stopping before the slip and stuck my head out the window and screamed for someone to spot me (Mikey was there but it was too late by then. He tried :(), I might have made it.

Many dumb moves; lots of repairs to make; lessons learned. :8