Butler Fire 2

**Mike** · 09-16-07, 05:12 PM

I know that we have all been hoping for the best in the case of the Bulter 2 Fire. I unfortunately just came across this updated burn map:

The burn area includes: most of the Holcomb Creek trail (3N93), all of Lower Larga (2N06X), all of 3N08, The upper part of White Mtn (3N17), and All the trails of Little Bear Peak.

It looks like the MJR Trail Crew is going to have a good bit of work to do.

The fire is not contained and the chance for continued growth is extreme. It is expected that varying winds over the next few days could cause the fire to be difficult to fight.

**blackZZR** · 09-16-07, 06:09 PM

Do we know yet if it hit our trail? Opps just saw it took Little bear peak, Keep us informed of what the trail crew can do.

**Mike** · 09-16-07, 07:41 PM

Yeah. Unfortunately, Little Bear Peak is just above the "4" of the DP-4 label.

**Black & Tan TJ** · 09-17-07, 04:35 AM

Thanks for the update, though heart breaking. And as you said there will be lots to do now.

Hoping for the best out come, B&T TJ

**FishPOET** · 09-17-07, 08:45 AM

If the forest service follows past decisions, the fire burned areas will be closed for at least 2 years. MJR might consider adopting another trail to keep us busy.

Some pics from a friend that lives in Big Bear

**dirtman13** · 09-17-07, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishPOET

If the forest service follows past decisions, the fire burned areas will be closed for at least 2 years. MJR might consider adopting another trail to keep us busy.

That would suck. Find this map. Shows some of the roads.

**dirtman13** · 09-17-07, 01:39 PM

Anyone listening to http://www.bigbearscanner.com/ that Helomech posted on the Rattlesnake run? They just had a aircraft go down. Sounds like the pilot is ok and was able to land some where. Those guys are brave.

**steelman** · 09-17-07, 02:01 PM

This sux...is it known how this fire got started?

**FishPOET** · 09-17-07, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtman13

They just had a aircraft go down. Sounds like the pilot is ok and was able to land some where. Those guys are brave.

From the scanners it sounds like all the firefighting aircraft have been sent back to base because of the crash.

**Kodiak Spirit** · 09-17-07, 02:52 PM

man, what can we do? this sux just watching it all go up! we hit JV yesterday and going thru Lucern by the fire station there were so many fire rigs and fire crews lining both sides of the street, it was cool, and awesome, but all for a bad reason... ugh!

**steelman** · 09-17-07, 03:22 PM

Another question...anyone know what the status of Hanna Flat campground is? Did it burn?

**dirtman13** · 09-17-07, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelman

Another question...anyone know what the status of Hanna Flat campground is? Did it burn?

I read some where that it burned I will see if I can locate it. Here is a good link that stays updated.
http://www.inciweb.org/incident/989/

Updates:
Jim Wilkins, PIO, at 8:35 pm: Hanna Flats campground has been destroyed; 1 out building at the YMCA Camp Whittle was destroyed but the camps were saved; estimated cost to date is 1.5 million; 1085 personnel; Unified Command and a Type 1 Incident; Fire is currently holding on the west flank as favorable winds are pushing away from GVL; fire is 1.5 miles away from GVL; winds are out of the southwest; fire is in heavy 50 to 100 year old fuels

**steelman** · 09-17-07, 04:33 PM

Thanks for the update...what a HUGE bummer.

**sarah** · 09-17-07, 05:19 PM

Thanks for the continued updates - it's probably better to take this all in slowly rather than all at once.

stever · 09-17-07, 06:49 PM

Please keep us informed. Checkout the postings on http://forestwhisperer.16.forumer.com/ for updates from Big Bear residents.

Steve

09-16-07, 05:12 PM	#1
Mike It's a rock, get over it! 99 TJ "Mr. Green" Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Posts: 1,298 Images: 258 Joined Sep 2006	Butler Fire 2 I know that we have all been hoping for the best in the case of the Bulter 2 Fire. I unfortunately just came across this updated burn map: The burn area includes: most of the Holcomb Creek trail (3N93), all of Lower Larga (2N06X), all of 3N08, The upper part of White Mtn (3N17), and All the trails of Little Bear Peak. It looks like the MJR Trail Crew is going to have a good bit of work to do. The fire is not contained and the chance for continued growth is extreme. It is expected that varying winds over the next few days could cause the fire to be difficult to fight.

09-16-07, 06:09 PM	#2
blackZZR Darn Tooting 67 cj5 Location: Riverside Posts: 1,019 Images: 52 Joined Sep 2004	Do we know yet if it hit our trail? Opps just saw it took Little bear peak, Keep us informed of what the trail crew can do. __________________ censored for having an opinion

09-17-07, 08:45 AM	#5
FishPOET Jeepaholic 1996 ZJ "The Black Pearl" Location: La Habra, California Posts: 908 Images: 9 Joined Jun 2006	If the forest service follows past decisions, the fire burned areas will be closed for at least 2 years. MJR might consider adopting another trail to keep us busy. Some pics from a friend that lives in Big Bear __________________ Over 2000 hours donated to the San Bernardino National Forest. Life member of CA4WD, CORVA & BRC. Tread Lightly Trainer. Reforestation Supervisor.

09-17-07, 01:39 PM	#7
dirtman13 Always Under Construction '07 CJ7 Location: Santa Ana, Ca. Posts: 1,630 Images: 6 Joined Apr 2007	Anyone listening to http://www.bigbearscanner.com/ that Helomech posted on the Rattlesnake run? They just had a aircraft go down. Sounds like the pilot is ok and was able to land some where. Those guys are brave. Last edited by dirtman13; 09-17-07 at 01:47 PM.

09-17-07, 02:01 PM	#8
steelman IX, X, XIII, XIV, XL '98 TJ Sport Location: SJC, CA Posts: 652 Joined Sep 2005	This sux...is it known how this fire got started? __________________ -Bob '98 Black TJ Sport 4.0L/Auto Trans My rig : http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...d/P1010315.jpg

09-16-07, 07:41 PM	#3
Mike It's a rock, get over it! 99 TJ "Mr. Green" Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Posts: 1,298 Images: 258 Joined Sep 2006	Yeah. Unfortunately, Little Bear Peak is just above the "4" of the DP-4 label.

09-17-07, 04:35 AM	#4
Black & Tan TJ Shiny Jeep Owner 2002 Sahara Locked & Lifted Location: El Segundo, Ca. Posts: 647 Images: 52 Joined May 2004	Thanks for the update, though heart breaking. And as you said there will be lots to do now. Hoping for the best out come, B&T TJ

09-17-07, 02:52 PM	#10
Kodiak Spirit BETRAYED!!! Study long, study wrong! Location: Wandering the Mall, waiting for "shopping reform" so I can get free stuff! Posts: 1,115 Images: 4 Joined Nov 2006	man, what can we do? this sux just watching it all go up! we hit JV yesterday and going thru Lucern by the fire station there were so many fire rigs and fire crews lining both sides of the street, it was cool, and awesome, but all for a bad reason... ugh! __________________ My youngest keeps asking, "daddy, when are you taking me jeeping?" Bless her heart!

09-17-07, 03:22 PM	#11
steelman IX, X, XIII, XIV, XL '98 TJ Sport Location: SJC, CA Posts: 652 Joined Sep 2005	Another question...anyone know what the status of Hanna Flat campground is? Did it burn? __________________ -Bob '98 Black TJ Sport 4.0L/Auto Trans My rig : http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...d/P1010315.jpg

09-17-07, 04:33 PM	#13
steelman IX, X, XIII, XIV, XL '98 TJ Sport Location: SJC, CA Posts: 652 Joined Sep 2005	Thanks for the update...what a HUGE bummer. __________________ -Bob '98 Black TJ Sport 4.0L/Auto Trans My rig : http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...d/P1010315.jpg

09-17-07, 05:19 PM	#14
sarah "The Sarah Edition" 99 TJ Auto Location: Apple Valley, CA Posts: 5,229 Images: 814 Joined May 2003	Thanks for the continued updates - it's probably better to take this all in slowly rather than all at once. __________________ I don't like rules - but the lines on the road allow us all to drive faster. '99 TJ Sport

09-17-07, 06:49 PM	#15
stever MyJeepRocks! ZJ Location: Los Angeles Posts: 47 Joined Dec 2006	Please keep us informed. Checkout the postings on http://forestwhisperer.16.forumer.com/ for updates from Big Bear residents. Steve

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